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Old 03-20-2024, 09:17 AM   #1
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Exact Same problem here. Ohio also doesn't skimp on road salt.

I have the new lines waiting to be installed. I just need to figure out how.
I've done hard line replacements on 4 or 5 cars, just never a 986.

Any Tips, Tricks, Videos, Photos or Tutorials would be appreciated. These new lines are way too expensive to kink up during installation.

thanks!
On many makes of cars, the brake hardlines are installed while it is a bare chassis, meaning some sections cannot be replaced without substantial disassembly to get the replacement lines in. We have actually seen GM models that require dropping out the engine and transmission cradle in order to replace the passenger side front hard line. When we encounter this problem, we use DOT approved nickel copper replacement lines, which have two major advantages: Then are malleable enough to be formed in place, and they will never rust.
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Old 03-27-2024, 05:31 AM   #2
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I will try my best to explain the rear passenger hardlines. I did this job recently after simply ruining my hardliners.

1. The hard line exits a block on the driver side before the rear wheel. It then goes straight for about 6 inches then traverses upwards with minor bends before making the angle to reach the rear bulkhead behind the engine nearest the throttle body. It then runs across this bulk head angling down gradually then taking a few minor bends to make it to the rear caliper. There is very little interference with any other lines or tubing.

2. I placed the vehicle into the service position. Then I used my quickjacks to place it into the highest position. Removed panels navigating the quickjacks, up and down as needed. From there I released the line from the dividing block on the driver side. I lowered the car slightly to release the line from its retaining clips (white clips along the bulkhead). I did so with nylon tools and very carefully, I was able to save all clips for reause in place. Then I removed the line, obviously it was trash do I did it in a brute fashion.

3. To reinstall the new line (perimeter porsche sourced, double check the bends it can be damaged easily in shipping, I had to go back for a replacement) I recommend releasing the shift cables at the transmission side. I also removed my intake piping from the CAI to the throttle body. This will allow the line to slide down to the bulkhead without interference from any other line or cable. From here I navigated the new line in carefully from the top placing it towards drivers side first. I fed more of the piping towards that side to make the angle needed to then place it against the bulkhead and work it in on the passenger side. I then secured it at the driver side dividing block and pushed it into the clips carefully as not to bend the longer sections in between the clips. Then proceed to replace all other items appropriately. Follow the proper instructions for bleeding the system.

My quickjacks helped a ton especially going up and down. However properly protecting the paint and using a step stool or ladder could make accessing the engine compartment while the vehicle is lifted relatively safe.

I hope this all made sense. Good luck. Definitely doable at home with minimal tools. Buy snap-on wrenches for your brakelines..

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Old 03-31-2024, 02:09 AM   #3
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On many makes of cars, the brake hardlines are installed while it is a bare chassis, meaning some sections cannot be replaced without substantial disassembly to get the replacement lines in. We have actually seen GM models that require dropping out the engine and transmission cradle in order to replace the passenger side front hard line. When we encounter this problem, we use DOT approved nickel copper replacement lines, which have two major advantages: Then are malleable enough to be formed in place, and they will never rust.
I would absolutely second the use of nickel copper lines. It actually makes me cross that manufacturers put steel lines in. Even as a “retail” customer the cost of nickel copper is so very little more and the adverse impact of using steel on longevity and maintenance costs is very great.
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Old 03-31-2024, 08:29 AM   #4
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I would absolutely second the use of nickel copper lines. It actually makes me cross that manufacturers put steel lines in. Even as a “retail” customer the cost of nickel copper is so very little more and the adverse impact of using steel on longevity and maintenance costs is very great.
Even more peculiar, Asian manufacturer's use mild steel brake hard lines that are coated with a rubber/plastic covering that totally eliminates corrosion. We regularly see a customer's 27-year-old daily driver Nissan that has been exposed to winter road salt since day one, and the original factory mild steel hard lines are in perfect condition. Just a few more cents can make all the difference.....
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