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marcoc 12-05-2017 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by robdelorenzo (Post 557056)
great thread!

I was in Trader Joes parking lot on Sunday and I pulled up next to a beautiful 911 to park my beat up Boxster.

The guy got out of the car and stood there just giving me a scowl like I have not seen in a long time.

He was one of THOSE guys (you know the kind, with his shirt collar turned up) I was kind of dumb founded at how angry he looked that a guy with a car like mine would park next to him.

The nerve!

But boy, was I wrong on my judging by appearance.

He came over to me as I was getting out of the car and said, "You know what, my car may cost a lot more but yours is a lot more fun to drive. My kids gave me time at The Porsche Experience in LA and I got to drive a Boxster for the first time and I loved it. Now I want one, too and I'm wondering if you could recommend what year I should look for"

My jaw fell to the floor.
Turned out to be a really nice guy.

I wanted to ask him to put his collar down, but I didn't.

Ha good story, wish all were like that

marcoc 12-05-2017 06:33 AM

a couple times I would give a friendly wave to a guy driving a newer model a 991 or whatever they just look at me mostly and dont wave back, funny thing is they probably lease the car and dont even care about it other than its a status symbol.........sad.

thstone 12-05-2017 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by marcoc (Post 557059)
... funny thing is they probably lease the car and dont even care about it other than its a status symbol.........sad.

Unfortunately, this is true more often than I wish it was.

I recently met a very successful woman who had just bought a brand new 2017 911 Turbo. When I asked her why she bought a Turbo instead of a GT-3 or a Targa, she replied, "Because it was the most expensive".

Bam! There it is, spoken out loud. To her credit, she wasn't trying to be an ass, she was simply answering the question. Rarely am I at a loss for words but this did it for me.

PaulE 12-05-2017 09:26 AM

You should have given him the Larry David stare while he was looking at you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by robdelorenzo (Post 557056)
great thread!

I was in Trader Joes parking lot on Sunday and I pulled up next to a beautiful 911 to park my beat up Boxster.

The guy got out of the car and stood there just giving me a scowl like I have not seen in a long time.

He was one of THOSE guys (you know the kind, with his shirt collar turned up) I was kind of dumb founded at how angry he looked that a guy with a car like mine would park next to him.

The nerve!

But boy, was I wrong on my judging by appearance.

He came over to me as I was getting out of the car and said, "You know what, my car may cost a lot more but yours is a lot more fun to drive. My kids gave me time at The Porsche Experience in LA and I got to drive a Boxster for the first time and I loved it. Now I want one, too and I'm wondering if you could recommend what year I should look for"

My jaw fell to the floor.
Turned out to be a really nice guy.

I wanted to ask him to put his collar down, but I didn't.


Wolf 12-05-2017 12:09 PM

Honestly, everything all comes down to you. Do what makes you happy, drive what makes you happy. 99.9% of the time those are the ones dropping ****************tons of cash down the drain to keep their pristine car clean while anyone else who enjoys them just says **************** it and drive.

(not saying skip the maintenance though, must keep your baby healthy :smile:)

We’re all the same in the end.


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grc0456 12-05-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anker (Post 556962)
I am a 2004 Boxster S owner and a very active member of the PCA NER region, having done DE, AX, Tours, Concourse and training sessions. Not once have I run into any snobbery or looking down upon Boxsters. We have a great and welcoming group here, and I plan to do everything I can to keep it that way.



+1 Anker! Our region seems to open and accepting to all. I truly think I bring more of it on myself sometimes...that feeling that I’m not worthy to hang with people whose PCCB are likely worth more than my car...lol. But then I remember that you cannot measure the enthusiasm and enjoyment that I get out of my 986, and my smile is as big as someone who is driving something more valuable, rare, etc.

Now, I’m not saying there aren’t “look down their nose” people in the Porsche community - there always have been and always will be. Just ask the 914 guys, who are finally getting the respect they deserve. But, if someone shows this attitude to me, I just find the many others who don’t and spend time with them instead.

And, BTW, both Anker and I were made Board members in our club. So, no 986 discrimination there!




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Paul 12-05-2017 02:28 PM

Milwaukee region's last 3 president's cars:

968
944 track car, Cayman GTS
Cayman S

fusionist 12-05-2017 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zoomster1776 (Post 556955)
1st Gen Boxsters look down on all other Boxsters

Wait... are we doing this now? I didn't get the memo. When did this start?

kirkandorules 12-05-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionist (Post 557112)
Wait... are we doing this now? I didn't get the memo. When did this start?

I've heard some looking down on 718s, but that's about it.

4cyl :rolleyes:

That986 12-06-2017 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Quadcammer (Post 556971)
Never experienced a different reaction between my 993tt and my boxster. Especially at the track, the box always gets positive comments. Maybe the wrong crowd, try the guys who autox or de, they seem to be less snobby

Always find that the people who actually "drive" their cars always are better company no matter the marque.

That986 12-06-2017 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fusionist (Post 557112)
Wait... are we doing this now? I didn't get the memo. When did this start?

I tend to find that's the other way round tbh.

marcoc 12-06-2017 05:43 AM

Nice to see a healthy conversation about a topic that most agree on in some way or another. I see some regions are more friendly than others. As far as 986 hate I think any "entry" level car in a what most consider a prestige marque will always be looked down on no matter what. I enjoy my 986 even if its no 991 Turbo although I won't lie I really want a Carrera someday :rolleyes:

wgirardot 12-06-2017 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by marcoc (Post 556950)
I am fairly quite on all forums I belong to, with a 5 year old and 5 month old my time is taken up but I needed to say something and see if others get the same. I have owned my 2001 Boxster S for 2 years now (64k miles). I always loved Porsche and wanted one so when I saw the Boxster prices under $15k for an S in pretty good shape I decided to sell my 1999 Mustang Cobra and look for a Boxster. I did many repairs and upgrades and the my car is pretty well sorted now, mostly completed by me. I have been a PCA member and attended some meetings/events but not everyone, who has time for that? So here is my rant- I am 36 years old but l could pass for 30 and I feel the Boxster hate from other Porsche guys. Sorry I cant afford a GT3 and spend 5 grand on seat stitching but I am an enthusiast. To me I like 924's to 964's and all are Porsches no matter what. I seem to get the cold shoulder from many other Porsche owners, honestly they say Porsche owners are snobs and I see it. The Mustangs guys are alot more accepting as are Toyota guys (another interest of mine). I didnt buy the car for hanging out with other owners but the camaraderie is part of the ownership of a marque. Is it because I look young? Is it because I drive a $15k Boxster? Whats up with PCA members at least in my region? I have tried talking to guys at meetings and some are cool but the majority aren't. Will the 986 hate every go away?:ah:

At the end of the day, all that matters is the car you are proud to own; the one living in your garage.

BFeller 12-06-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zoomster1776 (Post 556955)
Some what "tongue in cheek".
911 folks look down on all "non-911" models with the 996 being on the bottom of the pecking order.
996's look down on 986's.
1st Gen Boxsters look down on all other Boxsters
TT 'ers look down on all other 911's
air/oli coolers look down on the "water" cooled (and there is a pecking order within the air/oil cooled folks, someone else will have to clarify)
356'ers look down on every one
people who race look down on the unwashed masses

(Opinions based on 50+ years of owning roadsters and being ridiculed for my choices)(lots of smiley faces)

But we all love our cars... and isn't that all that matters?

We have the same tongue in check pecking order for Jeeps. With the square headlight out ones being at the bottom - forever.

bockster75 12-07-2017 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BFeller (Post 557252)
We have the same tongue in check pecking order for Jeeps. With the square headlight out ones being at the bottom - forever.

Love it, jeep guy myself. There's definitely a pecking order with Jeeps as well, although I'm finding more acceptance of the YJ's over the 4dr JK's these days. The guys with the newest JK's, dripping with lifted chrome at the grocery store seem to be the ones who feel they are top of chain. The real jeep enthusiasts (driving the rusty, trail scarred beasts) are the only ones I find myself having great conversations with.:matchup: Seems boxster owners and old jeep owners have a lot in common. I'm sure it's the same with all enthusiasts not matter what your flavor is. :cheers:

fridsten 12-07-2017 06:52 AM

In my experience, most of the guys - because it's always guys - who hate on the Boxster, call it "not a real Porsche" and so on, very rarely own a Porsche themselves.
In Porsche Club Sweden, I've never met that attitude. I've had owners of 991 GT3s and air cooled 911s take an interest in my humble Boxster just as much as I'm interested in theirs.

zoomster1776 12-08-2017 05:14 AM

Like I said Tongue in cheek. It's probably only me who believe that the Gen1 Boxsters were the 'best' Boxsters

jccash 12-08-2017 04:01 PM

Very happy with my 99 986 168,000 miles needs a paint job if you know a paint shop in central Florida let me know


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rexcramer 12-08-2017 05:26 PM

No, when your right, you're right. Go with it. Long live the Fried Eggs and Amber Side Markers.

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Originally Posted by zoomster1776 (Post 557356)
Like I said Tongue in cheek. It's probably only me who believe that the Gen1 Boxsters were the 'best' Boxsters


911monty 12-08-2017 05:39 PM

This really is a funny thread. The 914 is only just peering over the edge of acceptance after nearly 50 years! You're just gonna have to have some patience cause the rear axle boys are ahead of us, it might be a while. But then acceptance is NOT why I drive mine.

grc0456 12-08-2017 05:59 PM

911monty just dropped the mic, friends


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coreseller 12-09-2017 05:20 PM

Wow.....Pathetic Original Post along with some responses. ENJOY YOUR PORSCHE!!!!!!!!

Do not be concerned with what others (P-Car owners, mustang owners etc) think. If you want to feel offended go ahead, my advice is you own a Porsche, be happy and STFU!!!!!

Lacostas 12-10-2017 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fridsten (Post 557279)
In my experience, most of the guys - because it's always guys - who hate on the Boxster, call it "not a real Porsche" and so on, very rarely own a Porsche themselves.
In Porsche Club Sweden, I've never met that attitude. I've had owners of 991 GT3s and air cooled 911s take an interest in my humble Boxster just as much as I'm interested in theirs.

Exactly my thoughts.. It's just that this car has become so famous and iconic over the years, and with fame you get a lot of criticism also hehe. People see the car on street and immediately they realize it's a P.

@OP I'm also young and I also drive a 986. Yes maybe it's because of the age, maybe it's because of spending "only $15k" to buy this car, but why does it matter in the end? Also, a 2016 used Mustang costs the same as the 17 year old Porsche (with Engine IMS issues...). So if we judge by the current car's worth, everyone must make fun of the cheap Mustangs..

I also feel good when I see another Porsche on the street. Problem with some P-Owners is that they use the car to show to the world that they are rich... Others just buy a Porsche for the thrill of driving,owning and maintaining a beautiful and unique "super car". I'm on that side :D

Boxstard 12-10-2017 06:23 PM

Coming from owning a 914 'four', 'not a pure Porsche' argument does not bother me one bit... 986 has a Porsche flat 6 and front body identical to 911/ 996!

I love 911's and all other P-cars, but when it comes to cornering stability, the mid engine cars are simply superior, period! And when you can not afford buying or daily driving 550, 718, 904 or even 914-6, Boxster (OK and Cayman) just makes perfect sense!

By the way, the iconic 550, our grandfather, was not named 'little bastard' for nothing!

And our car saved Porsche from bankruptcy too!

People calling Boxsters not pure Porsche or hairdresser's cars do not know the whole heritage and history of Porsche.

Robert993TT 12-11-2017 07:41 AM

I think people will change their perception about Boxster 986 generation. I know that I have. My first drive in a 986S was around year 2000. The handling was nice but it was a bit tame enginewise. I expected more. A few years later I bought a 993 turbo that I still own. 2 years ago I started to look for a car that was undervalued, reliable and fun to drive. I bought a 550 SE. Maybe I payed more than I would for a standard 986S but it was in very nice condition. Took it on a eurotrip to italy this summer during three weeks. What can I say. It was perfect. Goes under the radar. Fun to drive. Very balaced car in every respect. Even practical for a twoseater. I won't be selling it anytime soon. If people think of the Boxster as a poor mans Porsche. It's their lost. It was the first Boxster and I think someday more will recognize that.

jccash 12-11-2017 11:00 AM

I’m like you I drive the 986 because they are fun to drive love how they handle the curve


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Twin headlight Ernie 12-11-2017 12:04 PM

986 hate
 
I've only had my 986S a few months and was fortunate that my first encounter with a PCA club was 100 percent positive. It was a group from South Dakota that was in town (La Crosse WI) for the weekend. Being a local I was able to steer them towards some of my favorite roads and places that only a local can. It was a fun weekend and I made a few new friends.
I've come across haters and snobs over the years in many different situations. I simply don't have time for that negativity in my life. I like to go out of my way to present myself in the total opposite manner. I try to be kind and friendly so it reflects back towards the P car people in positive light.

jb92563 12-11-2017 03:27 PM

I've had girls and guys tell me "Nice Porsche" but I have never had anyone tell me how disgusting my car looks, even when its dirtied up with tape racing numbers.

I rather enjoy being the only Porsche in the Parking lot and enjoying the awesome sound and handling on every drive.

Hater's, who cares what they think. Never met a hater who's opinion I valued. :p

YellowS2000 12-11-2017 11:30 PM

A young chinese man was walking from one village to the next and along the way met a wise old man coming in the opposite direction. He said to the old man "what are the people like in the next village" the old man replied "what are the people like in the village you have just left"

The young man said "they are all liars and cheats" to this the old man replied "you will find they are the same in the next village too"

rfuerst911sc 12-12-2017 01:19 AM

Porsche haters are just a cross section of society . Everyone know or works with some douche nozzle that is just a pain in the butt for whatever reason , Porsche haters fall into that category . Some folks are just miserable/jealous/hateful/ignorant it is what it is . I could really care less what someone thinks about my car or my ownership of it . Life is too short to argue with idiots . Go enjoy your car and drive it like Ferdinand wanted it to be driven .

morgal48 12-12-2017 08:46 AM

My last car, before my 986S, was an '89 Carrera 3.2 Targa. Not a 964. At P-car events everyone thought it was great. Instructors all wanted to ride with me. It was great! My next birthday starts with a "7", and I'm not capable enough to drive a car that will, literally, turn on you as quickly as a 911 on a slick road in traffic will. All the weight transfer knowledge I have arrives in recall about a second too late, as all those years of tequila have slowed the firing times of my synapses. I can still have fun and - more comfortably - hang the rear end out as needed. It took a year to find the 911. It took a year to find the Boxster. Two wonderful, albeit different, cars.


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