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Old 10-06-2017, 05:37 PM   #1
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The best advice I can give is not to blindly follow my advice.
Today I took a flywheel out of the box and tried out what I had suggested about mounting it 45 degrees off from the flex plate. What I learned is that the eight bolts are not uniformly spaced and that the flex plate and flywheel only fit one way. The other news was that the way that it fit is with the gap 45 degrees off from how the flex plate mounts (I have an S6 2.7 TT flywheel and clutch). The other-other news is that I can't quite make sense out of what I said about the crank sensor and 66 degrees before TDC. Looking at where my flex plate lined up, I don't see how it's physically 66 degrees from TDC.
Here's one of the places I got it from:
To see the whole document, search for "V8-5VEngine.pdf".


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There are a few good detailed swaps on the audizine forum. 4Loops, Nollywood, and Bhusted really seem to know this stuff. Also "Silverd2" posts on a lot of the Audi forums and can be very helpful.
Here's a good thread you should read. Note the part about flywheel and spacer. It will be good to know if you need the spacer before you assemble and torque everything.
Detailed V8 Swap: B5 A4 4.2L

Exactly what I found with my flywheel is noted in post 9 of that thread. The flex plate gap is about the 2:30 position at TDC. The Flywheel gap is at about the 4:00 position. Why? The answer is in post 11: It corresponds with the position of the mounting for the G28 sensor on the Automatic and the Manual being shifted from the 8:30 position to the 10:00 position. I think I read all that a year ago and forgot it.

So the answer to the original question about the crankshaft sensor is: Buy the right flywheel and use the existing mount on the manual transmission. Easy. (But check your sensor to see if it needs a spacer for clearance)

I like to figure this stuff out as I go. If I get stumped and need professional help, I'd probably seek it directly from Qmulus on this forum.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:06 PM   #2
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The best advice I can give is not to blindly follow my advice.
Today I took a flywheel out of the box and tried out what I had suggested about mounting it 45 degrees off from the flex plate. What I learned is that the eight bolts are not uniformly spaced and that the flex plate and flywheel only fit one way. The other news was that the way that it fit is with the gap 45 degrees off from how the flex plate mounts (I have an S6 2.7 TT flywheel and clutch). The other-other news is that I can't quite make sense out of what I said about the crank sensor and 66 degrees before TDC. Looking at where my flex plate lined up, I don't see how it's physically 66 degrees from TDC.
Here's one of the places I got it from:
To see the whole document, search for "V8-5VEngine.pdf".


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There are a few good detailed swaps on the audizine forum. 4Loops, Nollywood, and Bhusted really seem to know this stuff. Also "Silverd2" posts on a lot of the Audi forums and can be very helpful.
Here's a good thread you should read. Note the part about flywheel and spacer. It will be good to know if you need the spacer before you assemble and torque everything.
Detailed V8 Swap: B5 A4 4.2L

Exactly what I found with my flywheel is noted in post 9 of that thread. The flex plate gap is about the 2:30 position at TDC. The Flywheel gap is at about the 4:00 position. Why? The answer is in post 11: It corresponds with the position of the mounting for the G28 sensor on the Automatic and the Manual being shifted from the 8:30 position to the 10:00 position. I think I read all that a year ago and forgot it.

So the answer to the original question about the crankshaft sensor is: Buy the right flywheel and use the existing mount on the manual transmission. Easy. (But check your sensor to see if it needs a spacer for clearance)

I like to figure this stuff out as I go. If I get stumped and need professional help, I'd probably seek it directly from Qmulus on this forum.
yes using the correct flywheel is the answer,
I am using the Valeo v6 turbo single mass replacement flywheel and clutch, the clutch should hold up if I dont punish it too hard and I can always upgrade later, this was the most cost effective solution for me, this also means the crank angle sensor will locate in the correct position on the boxster trans no mods just have to measure the clearance from sensor to flywheel,
Cheers Russ...
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:19 PM   #3
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this guy has some good info and great to ask questions to ,very helpfull,
I will be doing my mounts the same,
keep it simple...
https://www.facebook.com/V8-Boxster-build-1546283579001450/
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Let me put a couple notes in here since it's the most recent discussion of the Audi 4.2 Swap.

A critical dimension of the engines is from the transmission mating surface to the front of the cam covers:
The 32 Valve ABZ engine I have is a little under 19 inches.
The 40 Valve AUX engine is about 20 inches.
This makes to 40 valve engine a much tighter fit at the front. I made the mistake of using an ABZ engine to design my engine sub-frame, so I had to make a slight modification to my forward firewall to make it fit. I think it is close enough that a correctly designed sub-frame will work with the transmission slightly more to the rear than I have it.??

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.... The other-other news is that I can't quite make sense out of what I said about the crank sensor and 66 degrees before TDC. Looking at where my flex plate lined up, I don't see how it's physically 66 degrees from TDC.
Here's one of the places I got it from:
To see the whole document, search for "V8-5VEngine.pdf". ...
I eventually made sense out of this. When the 40 valve engine is pinned at TDC, it's at TDC for cylinder 5, not cylinder 1.
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