Warranty Direct most reliable cars

[Brucelee]

Warranty direct just published their list of the top 100 cars in terms of reliablitiy, based on the number of claims per car.

The Boxster ranked

#100 Porsche Boxster


BTW-the top car was the Honda Accord.


Here is the complete list!

1 Honda Accord 2 Subaru Forester 3 Mazda MX-5 4 Mitsubishi Carisma 5 Toyota Yaris 6 Honda Civic 7 Nissan Almera 8 Honda CR-V 9 Toyota RAV4 10 Nissan Micra 11 Lexus IS 200 12 Mazda 626 13 Jaguar X-Type 14 Toyota Landcruiser 15 Volvo S/V40 16 MINI (BMW) 17 Suzuki Vitara 18 Mazda 323 19 Toyota Carina E 20 Saab 9-5 21 Lexus LS400 22 Ford Ka 23 Rover 45 24 Hyundai Lantra 25 Mercedes SLK 26 Citroen Xsara 27 Ford Cougar 28 Subaru Impreza 29 Skoda Octavia 30 Audi A4 31 Nissan Primera 32 Toyota Avensis 33 Volvo 850 34 Vauxhall Corsa 35 Seat Toledo 36 Volkswagen Golf 37 Daewoo Lanos 38 Fiat Brava 39 Hyundai Coupe 40 Mitsubishi Shogun 41 Rover 25 42 Mercedes CLK 43 Fiat Marea 44 Ford Focus 45 Peugeot 106 46 MG MG TF 47 BMW Z3 48 Hyundai Accent 49 Volkswagen Polo 50 Fiat Punto 51 Vauxhall Zafira 52 Mercedes C-class 53 Volvo S60 54 Toyota MR2 55 Mazda Xedos 6 56 Ford Puma 57 Vauxhall Astra 58 Vauxhall Omega 59 Chrysler Neon 60 Audi A2 61 Ford Fiesta 62 Ford Mondeo 63 Vauxhall Corsa 64 Citroen Saxo 65 BMW 3 Series 66 Vauxhall Vectra 67 Isuzu Trooper 68 Mercedes M-Class 69 Subaru Legacy 70 Rover 400 71 Fiat Ulysse 72 Mercedes E-Class 73 Renault Clio 74 Toyota Celica 75 Peugeot 306 76 Peugeot 406 77 Volvo S70 78 Rover 75 79 Daewoo Matiz 80 Peugeot 206 81 Mazda MX-3 82 Vauxhall Tigra 83 Seat Ibiza 84 Peugeot 106 85 Renault Megane 86 Peugeot 406 87 Saab 9-3 88 Audi A3 89 BMW X5 90 Mercedes S-class 91 Toyota Corolla 92 Seat Alhambra 93 BMW 5-series 94 Daewoo Nubira 95 Alfa Romeo 145 96 Saab 900 97 Mazda MX-6 98 Jaguar S-Type 99 Daewoo Leganza 100 Porsche Boxster

More on this at http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/

[986Jim]

Hahhaha, that’s great. The last AJAC poll somewhere Porsche was high in the ratings now were last.

I love those things, lots of fat journalists who can't drive making decisions about what’s best.

I have worked in the Automotive Journalism arena for about 5 years and I can actually drive a car around a lap and most of the guys were spinning out the test cars and stuff. The BFG even last year was hilarious. All kinds of Magazine and Newspaper guys there and none of them could drive. It was pretty funny. The BFG guys were pretty pissed off.

[Brucelee]

These ratings are drawn from paid claims from the WD data base, so it does not appear to be impacted by opinion.

[mquillen]

Interesting list. I'd like to see model years associated with it. I'm shocked that the Subaru Forester is 2nd on the list. My 2001 model ate wheel bearings, had bad coil pack, and still has a vague CEL occasionally, and bad paint. Not to mention the stop leak required by the mfr. to prevent head gasket failure. There are indeed many ways to measure reliability.

Statistically, we really don't know what the population is of each model. Some of the more problematic vehicles are more prone to get 3rd party warranties than others. Cost of repairs would be another driving factor leading some vehicles to be over represented in the total population of third party warranties. Also, the number of claims may have little to do with the dollar value of the repairs, which I think would be more telling.

[BuffaloBoxster]

They already paid out on mine for the MAF, but they're still a grand and a half up.

[Jeph]

1. Honda Accord
2. Subaru Forester
3. Mazda MX-5
4. Mitsubishi Carisma
5. Toyota Yaris
6. Honda Civic
7. Nissan Almera
8. Honda CR-V
9. Toyota RAV4
10. Nissan Micra
11. Lexus IS 200
12. Mazda 626
13. Jaguar X-Type
14. Toyota Landcruiser
15. Volvo S/V40
16. MINI (BMW)
17. Suzuki Vitara
18. Mazda 323
19. Toyota Carina E
20. Saab 9-5
21. Lexus LS400
22. Ford Ka
23. Rover 45
24. Hyundai Lantra
25. Mercedes SLK
26. Citroen Xsara
27. Ford Cougar
28. Subaru Impreza
29. Skoda Octavia
30. Audi A4
31. Nissan Primera
32. Toyota Avensis
33. Volvo 850
34. Vauxhall Corsa
35. Seat Toledo
36. Volkswagen Golf
37. Daewoo Lanos
38. Fiat Brava
39. Hyundai Coupe
40. Mitsubishi Shogun
41. Rover 25
42. Mercedes CLK
43. Fiat Marea
44. Ford Focus
45. Peugeot 106
46. MG MG TF
47. BMW Z3
48. Hyundai Accent
49. Volkswagen Polo
50. Fiat Punto
51. Vauxhall Zafira
52. Mercedes C-class
53. Volvo S60
54. Toyota MR2
55. Mazda Xedos 6
56. Ford Puma
57. Vauxhall Astra
58. Vauxhall Omega
59. Chrysler Neon
60. Audi A2
61. Ford Fiesta
62. Ford Mondeo
63. Vauxhall Corsa
64. Citroen Saxo
65. BMW 3 Series
66. Vauxhall Vectra
67. Isuzu Trooper
68. Mercedes M-Class
69. Subaru Legacy
70. Rover 400
71. Fiat Ulysse
72. Mercedes E-Class
73. Renault Clio
74. Toyota Celica
75. Peugeot 306
76. Peugeot 406
77. Volvo S70
78. Rover 75
79. Daewoo Matiz
80. Peugeot 206
81. Mazda MX-3
82. Vauxhall Tigra
83. Seat Ibiza
84. Peugeot 106
85. Renault Megane
86. Peugeot 406
87. Saab 9-3
88. Audi A3
89. BMW X5
90. Mercedes S-class
91. Toyota Corolla
92. Seat Alhambra
93. BMW 5-series
94. Daewoo Nubira
95. Alfa Romeo 145
96. Saab 900
97. Mazda MX-6
98. Jaguar S-Type
99. Daewoo Leganza
100. Porsche Boxster

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by mquillen

Interesting list. I'd like to see model years associated with it. I'm shocked that the Subaru Forester is 2nd on the list...

Hi,

Yea, but look at the trusty MX-5 Miata - #3... If only...

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

[Jeph]

Interesting list...
I contest that the sample data used isn't entirely too accurate when compared to all the cars on the road... This sample only comes from people that have purchased this warranty from Warranty Direct. Repective years would be helpful too.

Based on number of claims... I wonder how that relates to cost per claim.

Then there's the fact that warranties are written in such a way that they are very particular about what they cover (unless it's a bumper to bumper warranty). Some cars could be more enclined to have smaller problems that are covered (more claims), where as others have catastrophic problems that aren't coverd (not claimed). Does that make the hugely problematic cars more reliable?

A Jag, some Audis, MBs, and couple of Peugeots are more reliable than a Corolla? This global perspective sure is different that what perceive.

[Brucelee]

That is all fine and the Boxster is STILL at the bottom of the list.

[rdancd816]

Ranked below a Daewoo! Ouch! I think I'll suscribe to the Daewoo enthusiast's forum. No mid-engines there unfortunatley! BTW - I still love my 986!

[rdancd816]

Ranked below a Daewoo! Ouch! I think I'll suscribe to the Daewoo enthusiast's forum. No mid-engines there unfortunatley! BTW - I still love my 986!

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by rdancd816

Ranked below a Daewoo! Ouch! I think I'll suscribe to the Daewoo enthusiast's forum. No mid-engines there unfortunatley! BTW - I still love my 986!

I love the 986 too! I would love it more if Porsche decided to make it a bit more robust!

[lexuspilot]

This is silly...

This data is not scientific and more of a novelty than anything.


For example:
Here are the top Brands bought at this grocery store in beverly hills. Would that list be similar to the grocery store in Bugtussle, AL, Hope Arkansas, Hong Kong? Would that list have anything to do with the brands sold total in the US? the World? Nope. Nothing more than the novelty of saying woohoo look who is ranked here.

Not enough data to be significant in any way.

[mquillen]

That would be the new MG TF, released a few years ago. Not available in the states.

[lexuspilot]

These cars have to be older than the length of the factory warranty correct?

Then they are telling me an audi a4 out of warranty is has less claims than all those cars below it. Perhaps they warranty only one garage queen A4 and 500 MX-6's that are lent to soccer hooligans by Guiness on the weekends.

That fact that anyone would post this so-called data makes me wonder if they just enjoy bashing Boxsters and cling to anything reinforcing their position. I wouldn't try to make any point by posting this list for fear that some of you would consider me an idiot. I understand what the data means to the warranty company, but without the rest of the numbers it is worthless data to the consumer.

A year ago Top Gear rated the Boxster S as the number one roadster. They didn'nt poll anyone, they drove it....hard. Enjoy your Boxster, drive it hard, and if that doesnt make you smile then maybe #5 the Toyota Yaris is for you.

[Brucelee]

It is interesting how defensive this information has made some of you. It is only data. Some of you ascribe ulterior motives to the company, some simply trash the data as wrong or irrelevent.

It may be all that. However, as the moderator who slogs through all the defect compaints on this forum, I can tell you that from a reliability standpoint, the boys in Germany have a long way to go.

As an example, the way they have failed to fix the RMS design defect is simply criminal in my opinion.

For the price of these cars, I would expect better from them. Let the defect rate reflect what we pay for these cars.

That would make me a happier Porsche owner.

[lexuspilot]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

It is interesting how defensive this information has made some of you. It is only data. Some of you ascribe ulterior motives to the company, some simply trash the data as wrong or irrelevent.

It may be all that. However, as the moderator who slogs through all the defect compaints on this forum, I can tell you that from a reliability standpoint, the boys in Germany have a long way to go.

As an example, the way they have failed to fix the RMS design defect is simply criminal in my opinion.

For the price of these cars, I would expect better from them. Let the defect rate reflect what we pay for these cars.

That would make me a happier Porsche owner.

Why is it interesting that posting that data and folllowing with the remark that Porsche is at the bottom would make us defensive? Whether or not we agree with you about Porsche quality, your post was nothing more than a cheap potshot. If you really had an agenda you wouldn't post something that weak.

Perhaps you need to admit to yourself that you do not belong in Porsche land, (I am not judging, I believe everyone belongs there ), but based on your comments you seem so unhappy with Porsche. Why continue stressing yourself.

The rants are enjoyable the whining is not!

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by lexuspilot

Why is it interesting that posting that data and folllowing with the remark that Porsche is at the bottom would make us defensive? Whether or not we agree with you about Porsche quality, your post was nothing more than a cheap potshot. If you really had an agenda you wouldn't post something that weak.

Perhaps you need to admit to yourself that you do not belong in Porsche land, (I am not judging, I believe everyone belongs there ), but based on your comments you seem so unhappy with Porsche. Why continue stressing yourself.

The rants are enjoyable the whining is not!

Well, given that I am a Porsche used car dealer and have driven or owned most current models, clearly, I "belong" in Porsche land. And posting data about Porsche quality is hardly whinning, it is simply acknowleding reality,

Do I have your permission to stay in Porsche land?

Porsche quality doesn't need any "cheap shots" to make folks question it. The engineers and bean coutners at Porsche have done that all by itself.

If you take data and feedback about the car you drive personally, that MAY say something about you, not me.

Don't shoot the messenger my friend. I have been through more Porsches than perhaps anyone on this board, so I know a bit about their fabled "quality" and how much is costs to own one of these bad boys.

As moderator and co-owner of the Board, I have to review every post. I can tell you that the greatest number of posts are about actual problems with the car or the fear of problems.

Happily, the other posts are about the joy of driving the car, which keeps us all coming back.

Imagine if it were reliable too?

Ah, to sleep, perchance to dream.

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

It is interesting how defensive this information has made some of you. It is only data. Some of you ascribe ulterior motives to the company, some simply trash the data as wrong or irrelevent.

It may be all that. However, as the moderator who slogs through all the defect compaints on this forum, I can tell you that from a reliability standpoint, the boys in Germany have a long way to go.

As an example, the way they have failed to fix the RMS design defect is simply criminal in my opinion.

For the price of these cars, I would expect better from them. Let the defect rate reflect what we pay for these cars.

That would make me a happier Porsche owner.

Hi,

It doesn't make me the least defensive. In fact, I think it points out what I've felt for some time; namely that Porsche is now a Corporation which has grown away from the ideals and tutelage of Ferdy Porsche and now cares much more about the closing price of their outstanding shares than they do about quality or their customers. It's as if they can save a buck by slipshod work or design, and their past reputation is strong enough to sucker people to buy it, which they do in droves.

A lot of those objecting to this thread are living in denial of these things. Porsche as a company ain't what it used to be, and Porsche as a car ain't what it used to be, period! But, they don't care because they're selling more Cars than ever, design flaws and all...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[lexuspilot]

Originally Posted by MNBoxster

Hi,

It doesn't make me the least defensive. In fact, I think it points out what I've felt for some time; namely that Porsche is now a Corporation which has grown away from the ideals and tutelage of Ferdy Porsche and now cares much more about the closing price of their outstanding shares than they do about quality or their customers. It's as if they can save a buck by slipshod work or design, and their past reputation is strong enough to sucker people to buy it, which they do in droves.

A lot of those objecting to this thread are living in denial of these things. Porsche as a company ain't what it used to be, and Porsche as a car ain't what it used to be, period! But, they don't care because they're selling more Cars than ever, design flaws and all...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Nothing is as it used to be.....

Remember when young women had nice bodies..before Mcdonalds(another corporation)