Aftermarket Exhaust / Mufflers

[rczap]

Originally Posted by Boxtaboy

What is way too quiet for you? Which exhaust do you have? What model year is yours?

I have an 02 S with the PSE. I hear more out of the intake vent than I do from the exhaust. I would also like to hear more "burble" at idle.

[geraintthomas]

Bypass pipes fitted to mine. Cost me £130 all in.

Before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwazw6F6D0

After:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXa-0kXSWUQ


Same camera (iPhone 6S), same distance, same car. Sounds perfect. No need to spend hundreds when this gives the sound of the original PSE you just don't get a switch, but why would you want to turn this off

[Boxtaboy]

Originally Posted by geraintthomas

Bypass pipes fitted to mine. Cost me £130 all in.

Before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwazw6F6D0

After:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXa-0kXSWUQ


Same camera (iPhone 6S), same distance, same car. Sounds perfect. No need to spend hundreds when this gives the sound of the original PSE you just don't get a switch, but why would you want to turn this off

The after sounds great!

[Boxtaboy]

Originally Posted by rczap

I have an 02 S with the PSE. I hear more out of the intake vent than I do from the exhaust. I would also like to hear more "burble" at idle.

Maybe you can have your valves clamped to stay in the bypass position at all times, and also install cat bypass pipes? I have listened to a fellow Boxster owner's PSE with cat bypass pipes, and it sounded pretty good.

[rczap]

Originally Posted by Boxtaboy

Maybe you can have your valves clamped to stay in the bypass position at all times, and also install cat bypass pipes? I have listened to a fellow Boxster owner's PSE with cat bypass pipes, and it sounded pretty good.

I was thinking that same thing, they had a pair of bypass pipes on Ebay for $200, then they went up to $1200. WTF? Anyway, I may see about having a local exhaust shop make some up.

[particlewave]

Someone here sells muffler bypass pipes for $100.

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-parts-sale-wanted/44060-fs-factory-style-diy-sport-muffler-kit.html

[Boxtaboy]

Originally Posted by rczap

I was thinking that same thing, they had a pair of bypass pipes on Ebay for $200, then they went up to $1200. WTF? Anyway, I may see about having a local exhaust shop make some up.

This may work for you?...
FOR PORSCHE: FSPOR9862SCB, FSP OR9 862 SCB - READY TO SHIP - (FABSPEED SECONDARY CAT-BYPASS PIPES)

[rczap]

Holy!!!! $500 for a couple of pipes with flanges?

[Boxtaboy]

Originally Posted by rczap

Holy!!!! $500 for a couple of pipes with flanges?

If they fit on a Porsche, they're special pipes!

[Ben006]

Bypass pipes is one of the few things that you can be cheap about.

There is no engineering going in bypass pipes, unlike mufflers, so not many reason to pay an extra! Only reason I see is fitment.

/!\ before buying any bypass pipes, ask the seller to give you the bolt spacing for the flange. Some might only fit if you have headers.

[Chuck W.]

I added a set of secondary bypass pipes last year. TopSpeed is a vendor on the board and sold them for $160 Shipped. Not sure if the price has gone up but it is worth checking out.

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/56660-added-secondary-cat-delete-pipes-topspeed.html

[Coaster]

Originally Posted by rczap

I have an 02 S with the PSE. I hear more out of the intake vent than I do from the exhaust. I would also like to hear more "burble" at idle.

I'll take your factory PSE if your interested in selling. Of course I'll cover shipping too.

[rczap]

Originally Posted by Coaster

I'll take your factory PSE if your interested in selling. Of course I'll cover shipping too.

PM Sent
Rich

[Ciao]

Originally Posted by rczap

I have an 02 S with the PSE. I hear more out of the intake vent than I do from the exhaust. I would also like to hear more "burble" at idle.

I have an 01 S looking for a factory PSE exhaust

[particlewave]

Keep in mind that there is a lot more involved with installing a PSE than just swapping mufflers.

[Coaster]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Keep in mind that there is a lot more involved with installing a PSE than just swapping mufflers.

That's if you want the button and all the connections, right? The valves are normally open so you could install the muffler and leave it in the open condition full time.

[particlewave]

Yes, the valves are normally open.

However, if you're negating functionality, it would be a lot more cost effective to just buy the $100 bypass pipes and pay your local muffler shop $50-$100 to weld them on. PSE's are not cheap.

[rczap]

Originally Posted by Coaster

That's if you want the button and all the connections, right? The valves are normally open so you could install the muffler and leave it in the open condition full time.

Theres a button? for what? where?

[Boxtaboy]

Originally Posted by rczap

Theres a button? for what? where?

The thread below explains it. On early Boxsters with the PSE option from the factory, there was no interior switch to control the valves. The exhaust was wired such that when the car went faster, the valves would automatically open. The early PSE had exterior shiny "sebring" style pipes that you could easily see from the rear. If you didn't get this option from the factory, many would just use metal cable wire to keep the valves open all the time, and this is fine as I'm not sure why anyone would want to silence the muffler, as even in the loud position, it wasn't all that loud. The 03+ PSEs sound better than the previous ones, as it had more growl.

On later PSEs from the factory (03 onwards), they got rid of the shiny exterior pipes, and so it looked like a standard exhaust from the outside except that the underside had valves and small pipes that couldn't be seen from behind the car. On these, there was a button on the upper console (shown in the thread below) that could open and close the valves at will. Honestly, the PSE is hard to come by now, and they don't drone, unlike most any other aftermarket exhaust (except the Dansk that I have as well as the home made PSEs done at muffler shops using the OEM muffler). If it were me, I'd keep the PSE and just get cat bypass pipes, but up to you to explore. You can definitely get a better sounding and crackling exhaust, but it will most likely come at the price of drone. Can you deal with that?

Factory PSE, where's the switch? - Rennlist Discussion Forums

[rczap]

Thanks guys, I didn't mean to highjack this thread but it seemed the appropriate place for it. I am gonna try to wire the valves open and see if that satisfys me. I dont think it will but who knows.

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