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jrebot2 11-21-2016 06:39 AM

EPS IMS Bearing Upgrade Kit
 
Has anyone tried this, looks like a very robust solution:

IMS Bearing Upgrade Kit | EPS

particlewave 11-21-2016 07:04 AM

The topic has been beat to death. Try a search.

fanguy 11-21-2016 10:05 AM

Jrebot2,

Oh, how the love abounds:))

There are several different products from a handful of companies and variation’s on how they approach the IMS problems. I would think each chooses what they feel would work best for them to get the desired outcome. The is a lot of info to be found and I have spoken with most of folks hwo design the IMS options and they were very helpful. Each feels they have the best product as they should. We get to figure out which would work best for us.

Enjoy the journey.

flaps10 11-21-2016 01:41 PM

I'm running one. No regrets.

fanguy 11-21-2016 03:26 PM

Flaps10,

Lived in Steilacom for 6 yrs I really wished I still did. Did you spend the extra $99 for the oil feed?

mikefocke 11-21-2016 05:18 PM

Look up how many times the OP has already asked about this same subject, one that has already been covered to death.

As someone once said, search is your friend.

PaulE 11-22-2016 08:01 AM

Was the question asked in relation to the 2002 S the OP has now sold pending funds or the OP's incoming 987?

jrebot2 11-22-2016 12:04 PM

Hi, for the 987s 2005

flaps10 11-22-2016 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanguy (Post 517337)
Flaps10,

Lived in Steilacom for 6 yrs I really wished I still did. Did you spend the extra $99 for the oil feed?

It's a cool town. Super quiet. I've since moved to north Tacoma.

Did not spend the extra $99 but the kit included the punch they suggest you use to pierce the passage anyway. I didn't love that method because you didn't really have control over the size of the hole you make, and the web you are piercing is a very thin cup pressed into the shaft. Whacking it with a hammer and punch didn't seem too smart.

In my case I had the shaft on my bench so I drilled a hole that was in the middle of the range they suggested and blew the chips out. I also pinned my sprocket onto the shaft with set screws, blah, blah.

Pdwight 11-22-2016 02:13 PM

So how about Oil ?????? :)

Giller 11-22-2016 03:34 PM

Why would you get an 05 and change the IMS? Cost of doing all that, you could pretty much be in an 06 with virtually no IMS worries?

jrebot2 11-22-2016 05:59 PM

Thats actually incorrect, mine is an earlier 05 and can change it out. the 06 u have to crack the case or drill it and the 06-08 still fail too

jrebot2 11-22-2016 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke (Post 517349)
Look up how many times the OP has already asked about this same subject, one that has already been covered to death.

As someone once said, search is your friend.

Wow dude, im new here and trying to learn. Looks like you don't have much to do. I appreciate the search I am using it.

Giller 11-22-2016 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrebot2 (Post 517450)
Thats actually incorrect, mine is an earlier 05 and can change it out. the 06 u have to crack the case or drill it and the 06-08 still fail too

Really? Show us the stats on the failure rate on the 06-08? Virtually zero. Silly to buy 05 and change it. Money towards an 06 and leave it alone.

And yes, as others have said, use the search, tons of info all ready asked and answered.

particlewave 11-22-2016 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrebot2 (Post 517451)
Wow dude, im new here and trying to learn. Looks like you don't have much to do. I appreciate the search I am using it.

New to the forum or new to Internet? :p
Nobody is trying to give you a hard time, but when you bring up a topic that's been covered to the point of exhaustion, no one will want to participate in a meaningful way.

If I were to state my opinion on the bearing, the same guys I've debated with in the past would jump in with their counterpoints and we'd be having the same debate again. I think we are all tired of that. ;)
There are certain topics we just try not to discuss, like the IMSB choices, oil, tires, cats and guns, etc.

Best of luck! :)

JFP in PA 11-23-2016 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrebot2 (Post 517450)
Thats actually incorrect, mine is an earlier 05 and can change it out. the 06 u have to crack the case or drill it and the 06-08 still fail too

All 2005's are crapshoot, as it is impossible to know which style bearing is in the car without taking it apart. Production dates are meaningless when it comes to the type of bearing that might be in the engine. You can still have the non serviceable bearing.

ksjohn 11-23-2016 04:45 AM

I put one in mine 13K ago. Kit came with slotted oil pump drive shaft. I did use that and punched a small hole through end of the shaft. So far, so good.

Someday when the engine dies, I am going to a postmortem inspection and see how this bearing fared.

ksjohn 11-23-2016 12:18 PM

One other thought:

One thing that attracted me to the EPS bearing system was ability to modify the oil pump drive shaft and the IMS so that oil would be continuously pumped to the bearing. I know this oil source is not cooled or filtered which is ideal, but still it is a continuous oil supply.

Why could you not combine this feature with a simple, non-sealed single row ball bearing? A ball bearing may be a better solution than a roller bearing and the cost could be minimal depending on the source of the bearing.

I have never seen this option discussed anywhere.

fanguy 11-23-2016 01:50 PM

This link gives info on ball vs roller bearings.

What

JFP in PA 11-23-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksjohn (Post 517513)
One other thought:

One thing that attracted me to the EPS bearing system was ability to modify the oil pump drive shaft and the IMS so that oil would be continuously pumped to the bearing. I know this oil source is not cooled or filtered which is ideal, but still it is a continuous oil supply.

Why could you not combine this feature with a simple, non-sealed single row ball bearing? A ball bearing may be a better solution than a roller bearing and the cost could be minimal depending on the source of the bearing.

I have never seen this option discussed anywhere.

Perhaps because the oil pump drives in these engine's are already notoriously weak before you grind a slot in them, punching a hole with a hammer in the pump end shaft seal may not be the best way to control oil flow, and running a flooded IMS shaft may not be the best approach to extending bearing life.


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