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Metal flakes in oil
I just changed my oil last week and put about 200 miles in the car since. Today, decided to drop the filter and just inspect the oil for any abnormalities. When I changed the oil last week, there were a few plastic and metal flakes, not pieces, in the filter. But after dropping the filter again there seems to be ALOT more metal in the bottom of the drain container- looked like the milky way.
Here's a pic, hard to get a good angle but you can see that when I tilt the pan the metal glimmers in the sun...thoughts? 2004 box s, 6 speed, 88k mileshttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...069b5b6f85.jpg Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk |
Did you use a new filter with last oil change? Open it up? Time for a magnetic oil drain plug.
Test oil for presence of antifreeze of it looks milky. |
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I see those little teeny tiny sparkles (when the light hits the oil just right) when I change oil on all of my cars and have never worried because there are only two options: (1) tear down the engine to find the source.; (2) do nothing.
It seems like it would be hard to justify tearing down an engine because of these microscopic metal particles, but its your car and your budget so you will have to make whatever decision you feel is right. If you're really worried, have the oil tested and then you'll know exactly what is in the oil. For reference, this is what a real problem looks like: http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...ps112ad98b.jpg |
Probably wise to drop the sump plate to inspect. If you have a serious problem, there will be material on the bottom of the sump plate also.
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There will always be microscopic pieces of emtal in the oil as this is what wear is, but In my opinion if these particles are visible to the human eye then that is more than regular wear
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My simple minded advice... Buy a Filter Magnet and see how much you catch in the filter. Then make a decision on worrying or enjoying your drives but on a lighter wallet. Coin flip?
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Send a sample away for an oil analysis. They'll tell you exactly what's in your oil and add insight. FWIW, I use Blackstone labs.
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Analysis poo........ Time for a IMS bearing change. I would not drive that car AT ALL until its done.
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Most people having an IMS issue get only a few seconds warning if at all. Finding those chips may very well be a blessing. The car will need an IMS bearing and clutch eventually. Do it now. Even if suspicions are wrong, the car will be worth thousands more and won't be as difficult to sell some day in the future. And you can go back to sleeping at night!!!!!
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We have had more than one cars brought to the shop that had metal in the oil and were then flushed and retrofitted with an new IMS by someone else. Unfortunately, none of them survived for very long due to internal damage caused by the circulating metal. I am only aware of a very, very small number of engines that lived for any period of time after being found with metal and an attempt was made to flush them out without taking them apart. The odds are simply not with you. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and accept what has happened, and move on from there.. |
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-1 for poo. IMS bearing is not the only thing that can put sparkles in your oil. The IMS bearing was still decent in the engine I pulled this out of: http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1412380550.jpg But the engine was well beyond repairable. |
...and not to be any more of a downer to GTsilber, but read this post. Especially the part after the picture:
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The paramount problem is not the IMSB. That is a relatively easy fix.
How are you going to remove the debris from the oil circulation system. Changing the IMSB,oil and filter is not a solution.No amount of flushing is effective. It lasts a few hundred miles maybe a little more .Ask me how I know! Be very wary of buying a car with a recent IMSB change. The 'clever' flippers may not even tell you the IMSB change has been done. But you'll find out soon enough ! Just google "debris oil raby" |
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