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m332is 10-19-2015 10:02 AM

sad day
 
I gave her one last bath, pulled out the car cover, connected the battery tender, pumped up the tires and put the 2001 986 S away for the winter. I used the car this past summer more than any other year and still only put a couple/few thousand miles on it. almost 15 years old and it just rolled over 30K miles. Every fall when I put it away I think about selling it... then in the spring I can't wait to pull it out. This year I need you guys to talk me out of selling it... hope it's not another long winter!

Vince

rbet 10-19-2015 10:35 AM

Why not just keep driving it through the winter? My 98 holds up fine in the New England winters just fine with the snow tires on it.

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Timco 10-19-2015 10:39 AM

I DD all winter long but do switch to truck or VW on snow days or really freezing weather. It can be brutal here.

m332is 10-19-2015 10:39 AM

This car is way too nice inside and out to subject it to the salt they use in Western NY (Rochester). I have an Audi S4 6 sp with 4 snows for the winter.

alm001 10-19-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by m332is (Post 470332)
This car is way too nice inside and out to subject it to the salt they use in Western NY (Rochester). I have an Audi S4 6 sp with 4 snows for the winter.

Pictures of s4, please. (I miss mine)

nobrakes 10-19-2015 12:59 PM

If you sell it you wont be able to replace it for the same amount of money........or you could always move down south and drive it all year round.:cool

lkchris 10-19-2015 01:11 PM

When I was younger and the 356 was current, many of the adverts showed them with ski racks at the ski resort. Continued with 911s for a while, too.

I've got snow tires. And perhaps I agree there's more salt these days. Something about the mayor of Chicago, maybe.

BIGJake111 10-19-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lkchris (Post 470350)
When I was younger and the 356 was current, many of the adverts showed them with ski racks at the ski resort. Continued with 911s for a while, too.



I've got snow tires. And perhaps I agree there's more salt these days. Something about the mayor of Chicago, maybe.


Due to a scheduling conflict I ended up taking forensics instead of physics.

Wouldn't a rear engined early 911 or 356 on thin tires be fairly unwise in the snow?

joecal 10-19-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m332is (Post 470327)
I gave her one last bath, pulled out the car cover, connected the battery tender, pumped up the tires and put the 2001 986 S away for the winter. I used the car this past summer more than any other year and still only put a couple/few thousand miles on it. almost 15 years old and it just rolled over 30K miles. Every fall when I put it away I think about selling it... then in the spring I can't wait to pull it out. This year I need you guys to talk me out of selling it... hope it's not another long winter!

Vince

That's a low mileage car! I feel the same way with some of the cars I've sold in the past, until you drive it again as you mentioned in the spring. I'm sure you would regret selling it come next spring. I think we need to move to a warmer climate. I remember when I was around 21 years old I bought a 1974 Triumph TR6 in 1976 and that was my daily driver, that was pretty bad in snow. I sold my 396ci 4 speed 1971 El Camino to buy it, now that car was bad in snow until I put snow tires on it. I wish I would have kept that one. I guess we're pretty spoiled now with front, 4 wheel, or all wheel drive cars.

Pdwight 10-19-2015 04:04 PM

Down South
 
We will not have to do that until around Christmas, I spent quite a bit of time in Rochester and up north...I understand. Do you leave the car on Jack Stands to keep from forming flat spots on the tires ?

Heiko 10-19-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m332is (Post 470327)
I gave her one last bath, pulled out the car cover, connected the battery tender, pumped up the tires and put the 2001 986 S away for the winter. I used the car this past summer more than any other year and still only put a couple/few thousand miles on it. almost 15 years old and it just rolled over 30K miles. Every fall when I put it away I think about selling it... then in the spring I can't wait to pull it out. This year I need you guys to talk me out of selling it... hope it's not another long winter!

Vince

Don't feel bad, I did the same thing today here :) They started spraying the salt brine on some of the bridges around here to keep them from freezing as the night time temps are dropping to around freezing at times.... So that put the cap on the season for me :(
H

mikefocke 10-19-2015 04:59 PM

Back in the '60s, rear engine VWs with narrow tires were the car of choice in snow.

I commuted across the DC city to high school through the snow for maybe 2 years in a '30 Ford Model A 2-door that not only had no defroster but also had mechanical brakes and very narrow tires. The tires had no treads running across them. Yet we always made it.

Narrow tires are an advantage. As is weight over the driven wheels.

Mark_T 10-19-2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Timco (Post 470331)
It can be brutal here.

LMAO!! :rolleyes:

Timco 10-19-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 470377)
LMAO!! :rolleyes:

Well, not bagged milk brutal, but weeks of sub freezing.

Remember, you chose to live there. It doesn't really count. It's like me moving to Alaska and carving a log home in the forest and claiming permafrost land as my yard. That's how I've always imagined sub-divisions in Vancouver or Toronto. Like 50 people in a forest. I can't imagine remote villages like Winnipeg. Do you get weekly plane drops of supplies including the bagged milk? Are you cut off from the main population for 6-7 months or what? I'm guessing satellite only and no utilities?

Eh?

Isn't Canada where Americans go to hide or escape or not be found for whatever reason?

Retroman1969 10-19-2015 06:20 PM

Quote: Last edited by Timco; Today at 08:25 PM. Reason: Add more Canadian insults

Dammit you made Pepsi come out of my nose! LOL!

JayG 10-19-2015 06:30 PM

Coke, no Pepsi

paulofto 10-20-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 470377)
LMAO!! :rolleyes:

Yeah, i read that and peed my pants. Salt Lake City, you have no idea about 'brutal'. Try Winnipeg in mid January. Although last winter wasn't too bad, the winter before was most definitely 'brutal'. Record snow AND record cold temperatures in Winnipeg. Remember 'Colder than Mars'?

My Boxster will get buttoned up this week and put away until the weather reaches non Mars like conditions.

paulofto 10-20-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Timco (Post 470378)
Well, not bagged milk brutal, but weeks of sub freezing.

Remember, you chose to live there. It doesn't really count. It's like me moving to Alaska and carving a log home in the forest and claiming permafrost land as my yard. That's how I've always imagined sub-divisions in Vancouver or Toronto. Like 50 people in a forest. I can't imagine remote villages like Winnipeg. Do you get weekly plane drops of supplies including the bagged milk? Are you cut off from the main population for 6-7 months or what? I'm guessing satellite only and no utilities?

Eh?

Isn't Canada where Americans go to hide or escape or not be found for whatever reason?

Well it isn't ALWAYS winter up here. This summer was particularly nice and so far the fall is a welcome continuation. I was out yesterday with the top down even. 18C and very sunny.

BTW, Vancouver isn't really part of Canada. They are wanna be San Franciscans or Seattleites except with more rain. They wouldn't know a real winter at all. And Toronto, well i lived there for 28 years and they also have no idea what real brutal winters are. Winnipeg, Edmonton, Tuktoyaktuk and Rankin Inlet. Now THERE is winter. (tongue firmly in cheek)

lkchris 10-20-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 470355)
Due to a scheduling conflict I ended up taking forensics instead of physics.

Wouldn't a rear engined early 911 or 356 on thin tires be fairly unwise in the snow?

You did indeed.

Narrow tires are much better in snow than wide tires. Check out world rally sometime. Snow is "aqua," too and wide tires aquaplane more.

Note that your Boxster owners manual calls for winter tires narrower than summer tires. That's not just for chains clearance.

In the day at least, most thought rear engine cars the best on snow. Granted, there weren't very many front-drive cars then.

jdraupp 10-20-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lkchris (Post 470481)
You did indeed.

Narrow tires are much better in snow than wide tires. Check out world rally sometime. Snow is "aqua," too and wide tires aquaplane more.

Note that your Boxster owners manual calls for winter tires narrower than summer tires. That's not just for chains clearance.

In the day at least, most thought rear engine cars the best on snow. Granted, there weren't very many front-drive cars then.

All that weight on the drive wheels? That's the way to go.

Bald Eagle 10-20-2015 01:21 PM

I've got ten days before my 2000 S goes into hibernation until the end of March. I used to have a sailboat on Lake Michigan - in the water the end of April, out of the water the end of October with good memories during the cold, dark winter. I think that the times without either the Boxster or the sailboat makes the time with them even more precious.

Today I had the top down enjoying a beautiful day, trees ablaze with fall colors and savoring the drive.

You guys in warm climes get the extreme weather - hurricanes, mudslides, forest fires, earthquakes, drought... you can have them all. I'll take a few days of brutal cold and a couple snowdrifted driveways any time over that.

The other cars - Volvo xc70 (4 wheel drive) and Acura CL-S (with snow tires) are fine in snow while I wait for Spring and the joy of Boxstering again.

Larry (the Bald Eagle)

Mark_T 10-20-2015 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 470468)
Try Winnipeg in mid January. Although last winter wasn't too bad, the winter before was most definitely 'brutal'. Record snow AND record cold temperatures in Winnipeg. Remember 'Colder than Mars'?

That was a rough winter. -40, howling winds, massive snow drifts... and we we went outside it was even worse.

Timco 10-20-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 470500)
That was a rough winter. -40, howling winds, massive snow drifts... and we we went outside it was even worse.

And that was June!

Pdwight 10-20-2015 06:31 PM

Al Gore
 
and Global Warming

jdraupp 10-20-2015 06:34 PM

If I didn't have the boxster in the garage over the winter with the cover on, where would I hide my Christmas presents? Best hiding spot ever.

batshapedheart 10-20-2015 06:42 PM

Oh to live in Florida! I should offer you guys the chance to send your Boxsters to me so I can drive them here :)

Retroman1969 10-20-2015 07:34 PM

It's beautiful up there, would love to visit, but I wouldn't want to live any further north than I already am. Saw a Subaru with Montana plates on it in traffic today. The body was pure rusty Swiss cheese up to the windows!
Parked next to a late 90s pickup a few weeks back that had Ontario plates on it. It was so rusty that it was sagging in the middle. The frame was cracked in half. They were driving it like that like it was nothing.
I guess you flat have to have a winter beater for anywhere north of, say, Kansas City.

Timco 10-20-2015 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 470527)
It's beautiful up there, would love to visit, but I wouldn't want to live any further north than I already am. Saw a Subaru with Montana plates on it in traffic today. The body was pure rusty Swiss cheese up to the windows!
Parked next to a late 90s pickup a few weeks back that had Ontario plates on it. It was so rusty that it was sagging in the middle. The frame was cracked in half. They were driving it like that like it was nothing.
I guess you flat have to have a winter beater for anywhere north of, say, Kansas City.

Well, I'm gonna say we're both north of KC and a little bit higher elevation....:ah:

pony13ca 10-20-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bald Eagle (Post 470484)
I've got ten days before my 2000 S goes into hibernation until the end of March. I used to have a sailboat on Lake Michigan - in the water the end of April, out of the water the end of October with good memories during the cold, dark winter. I think that the times without either the Boxster or the sailboat makes the time with them even more precious.

Today I had the top down enjoying a beautiful day, trees ablaze with fall colors and savoring the drive.

Larry (the Bald Eagle)

+1 I put mine away on the same dates. Took an extra long weekend this past weekend, and took her on a nice road trip. Drove down to West Virginia on Friday. Stayed with some friends, and drove some great roads. Spent some time at Hawks Nest, and checked out Bridge Day. Got to take a Polaris Slingshot for a spin. Left Sunday, and drove to Canton Ohio. Went to the NFL hall of fame Monday, and then came back to Toronto. Top down the entire time. Nice way to end the summer, before she goes to bed.

Giller 10-21-2015 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 470527)
It's beautiful up there, would love to visit, but I wouldn't want to live any further north than I already am. Saw a Subaru with Montana plates on it in traffic today. The body was pure rusty Swiss cheese up to the windows!
Parked next to a late 90s pickup a few weeks back that had Ontario plates on it. It was so rusty that it was sagging in the middle. The frame was cracked in half. They were driving it like that like it was nothing.
I guess you flat have to have a winter beater for anywhere north of, say, Kansas City.

Ah, the whole salt/rust thing is WAY overblown. If you take care of your car, make sure scratches and chips are fixed and you give it a bath once and a while, you will be fine. Seriously, it is extremely rare to see the proverbial rust bucket anymore.
I put mine away because I want to preserve it for the summer, top down driving months. And by preserve I mean keep the km's down. Don't want to waste kms in the winter!

Xpit77 10-21-2015 03:29 AM

Nuff said.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1445426954.jpg

Retroman1969 10-21-2015 04:02 AM

I guess it is mostly older neglected northern cars I've seen traveling down here over the years then. It's probably just those that stand out. Gives a false impression.
I still hate the cold though!
Here we have 3 months of winter and severe winter weather maybe... 3 weeks collectively?
To be fair though, we then swing into often violent springs.

Timco 10-21-2015 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Xpit77 (Post 470542)

http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...psduhp9qul.jpg

m332is 10-22-2015 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 470369)
We will not have to do that until around Christmas, I spent quite a bit of time in Rochester and up north...I understand. Do you leave the car on Jack Stands to keep from forming flat spots on the tires ?

Store it in my friend's heated garage. I've typically over inflated the tires over the winter (this car, past e30 M3, past e36 M3, etc) and never had a flat spotting issue that way.

Mark_T 10-22-2015 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Giller (Post 470540)
Ah, the whole salt/rust thing is WAY overblown. If you take care of your car, make sure scratches and chips are fixed and you give it a bath once and a while, you will be fine. Seriously, it is extremely rare to see the proverbial rust bucket anymore.

Can't agree with that. Salt plays havoc with the underside mechanical components no matter how how try to look after it. Well, unless you have a hoist and and a pressure washer and can thoroughly wash the underside weekly.

My car has never been winter driven in all its 16 years. It still looks new underneath and I have yet to encounter a seized fastener. Not so with my 10 year old, winter-driven truck.

Mark_T 10-22-2015 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 470369)
Do you leave the car on Jack Stands to keep from forming flat spots on the tires ?

It is my understanding that is is not good for the suspension components to leave them hanging unsupported for extended periods of time. I follow the over-inflation directions in the owners manual and have had no flat-spotting issues.

Dave S. 10-22-2015 10:04 AM

Put mine away for the winter on Tuesday. Snowing hard in the Colorado Mountains today. I have other vehicles to drive in the winter and it's like getting a new car every spring.

jdraupp 10-22-2015 12:17 PM

Mine is not due for slumber till mid november. I like to take advantage of the occasional nice fall day we get. When she goes to sleep I wash, clay, Polish, wax, fill the tank and put some stabil in, oil and filter, and then inflate the tires to 50 pounds all around, put the battery tender on and cover her up.

Pdwight 10-22-2015 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m332is (Post 470649)
Store it in my friend's heated garage. I've typically over inflated the tires over the winter (this car, past e30 M3, past e36 M3, etc) and never had a flat spotting issue that way.

I also have a E36, my daily driver....most dependable car I have ever owned. (I wish it was a M3)

Mark_T 10-22-2015 07:53 PM

Amusing that, given all the shots about Winnipeg's supposedly frigid climate, the weather is still great here and my car is still on the road. Ha!


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