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Why is it when someone posts something about their Boxster, they always have to specify they have an 'S'? It's always "My Boxster S" and they will repeat that throughout their post....Boxster S this and Boxster S that. My Boxster S key fob doesn't work. My Boxster S headlight switch isn't working. I need the code for my Boxster S radio.....

It's almost like we have a class system just in Boxsters. Heaven forbid we all think they only have a BASE Boxster! Yuck!

I find it amusing as many boxster owners are so sensitive to whether or not this is even a 'real' porsche - yet those same have set up a class system to make sure no one thinks they have but a lowly BASE model!

I agree, I always wondered why it mattered if it was an "S" or not. "My S this, my S that..." (I own an S :p!).

It's my understanding that some issues occur on certain models ie. Base or S. Plus I believe they are made a little different ie. parts etc. Also, we all know there is a huge price difference between the models too. So I would have to disagree with you and say its important that users specify which model version and year when they are listing information about their car as it can make a big difference in some cases. The same goes for any car... ex. Elantra base vs Limited... big difference even on those cars. I don't think people are doing it because they want to say a non-S is not real... I think people on here say its an S or not because they want others to provide the best advice and details based on exactly what they are driving. A problem with a 2001 S vs 2002 S could have two different solutions because the year apart... same with a S or Base for the same year. We have good people on here and very helpful too which I appreciate - lets not spoil the atmosphere !!

Majority of the time it does apply to the question.

When referring to driving dynamics or problems it matters what engine the car has as well as its model year usually. Similar to including if the car has an auto transmission or not.

I *think* I only do it when talking about mods or parts or performance related discussions. Now I wonder... At work my boss used to fuss at me when I would go meet customers and leave "Senior" out of my title... I feel like I am relatively modest.

Steve

2000 Boxster S

Its not a class thing. Its an important component when using the net for information. As others have said too. They are different vehicles.

My Xterra is an X model, the lowest one. I have no problem with being specific about that. The X does the job just fine.

Not a class thing at all. In fact unless it is something that relates to something that is specific or different on my car, I just call it my Boxster or my 986.

It is the same as specifying the model year. There are differences between the base and the S such as engine, brakes and suspension.

Its the same with the 996 with C2, C2S, C4, C4s, Turbo, etc

Geez, can't you find something more worthwhile at which to take offense? Put the top down, let the sun shine in and thicken your skin a little bit.
The info is frequently relevant, and even when not, should be considered a matter of interest on an enthusiasts' forum...
I don't get offended when someone mentions they have a 3.4 swap, a Raby build,a cocoa interior 550, or a new paint job. But then I don't have a chip on my shoulder either, nor do I automatically assume someone driving a base model can't be an enthusiast.

It's relevant because all S models have a single row IMS bearing (minus the 2000 S models, which have a 50/50 chance of having either). :p
I'm proud to have a BASE '99 with DUAL ROW IMSB! :D

That, and a base is nothing to be ashamed of. It's still a lot of car and the difference in performance between the two isn't as great as some would like to believe (the 0-60 time difference from the very first 986 2.5 base to the last 986S 3.2 is all of 1 second).

Who took offence? Who has a chip? I just find it funny and silly.

I get that sometimes it does matter - when referring to the technical specifics - but my reference was directly to those that post about how their key fobs don't work or their top isn't working....but have to specify it's an S - which makes no diff in most situations.

I would say 90% of the vehicles are the same and having to tell us it's an S only really applies to a very small fraction of situations.

Just seems to be for the most part, an ego thing, which is just silly.

I have an S. I didn't buy it because it was an S or I look down on the base model. I bought it because it happened to be the best Boxster I could find, at the time. Base or otherwise. When I post in here, I always say it is an S in case that turns out to be relevant to our discussion.
It is interesting though, that when I was looking and came here looking for advice, I had many people tell me to spend the extra money, and buy an S, because it was "better".

I actually appreciate knowing the exact model and year - it helps immensely with providing accurate advice.

In general, the people on this site post with the least amount of ego in the entire world of automotive internet forums!

Now, if we can just get all of the new people to post pics - THEN I'll be happy! :)

Too funny....
 

...you should troll the ADV motorcycle forum.. If you think the "S" posts are class warfare, try the BMW GS vs. KTM Vs. V-Strom Vs. Yamaha S10 arguments.

Don't even get me started on the Harley vs. every other cruiser and liter bike vs. liter bike.

Look man, if you own an "S", you post that your car is an "S". This forum is designed to share info for the greater good of Boxster ownership. Knowing that a poster is describing an "S" is one more data point to help you figure out what the answer is to your Boxster situation.

Enjoy your car, and don't let other people affect your mood.

Cheers!

Because sometimes it matters as you are either saying my car is like yours or my car is sorta like yours but only in some ways. It always bugs me when people don't post the model year info because I can't intuit what manual to look in for an answer to their question.

Owned a base and an S. I've said many times on the forums the base was more fun.

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I'll go further and defend the identification of a car as an S beyond tech advice.

We are all analytical German car owners. We're mostly detail oriented people. Even if someone is just talking about getting their key fob fixed, I tend to care about their car and the details involved.

There are so many varieties within boxsters that I always like to learn how each forum members car is different.

The colors, who has an s, who has a tip, who has this option or that option.

It's all interesting and in an enthusiast setting (particularly for Porsche German cars) the details matter a lot! If you take offense to someone having an option on their box that you don't then this isn't the place for you.

I comment frequently about my S and the 2.5 I used to own. Particularly when people are asking on what car to buy I'll leave my impression of both.

The good thing is one isn't always better than the other. Same as how a tip has its benefits to a manual so does a 2.5 to a 3.2.

And even better, they are each good for their own reasons. A 2.5 has a more exotic exhaust note and provides a more classic feel (particularly on 16s!.) while an S on 265 rear 18s is going to be an entirely different dynamic that is better in different situations.


Happy motoring, I never felt inferior when I had a base, and never feel superior now that I have an S.

The only time that I do get a little pissy is when I see a highly modded boxster in public that is made to look like an S but has only 2 radiators up front. That's not cool.

Don't take offense when somebody specifies their model bro.. these guys here even the "S" guys would be the first to respond if you needed help with your Boxster no matter what model you have. Heck go to the 911 sites and you will see more classifications then you ever want to see of who has the better 911 model etc. To me the Boxster S or not is the best handling car ever build..

I have to admit those snooty cocoa interior 550 guys piss me off a bit. Most of them think they're too good to drink their milk from bags.

Model designation never bothered me a bit. Drive what you like. I don't see class warfare here at all.

Hmmmm. For me, it's the poor (as in cash-strapped) members who call their car a 'base' when it's actually a 'Non-S'.

Or, the 'Wussamatic' owners who insist on calling it a 'Tip'.

Or worse yet, 987 owners on the 986 forums. Sheeeeesh.

:rolleyes:

BASE LIVES MATTER!

Just kidding, they don't.

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All of the Boxsters built after '99 are soulless constructions of cold steel/aluminum and ez-scratch plastic. Base 2.7, S 3.2.... 'Meh.

"What Difference At This Point Does It Make?!"
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Okay, does anyone call a 911 Carrera a 'base' 911, or a non S of any other Porsche a 'base'?

No, they don't call them base.
IIRC, with the introduction of they Boxster S, they started to refer to the 2 models as Base and S

My 99 is a not-S. Haha. I do have to admit, if I ever get a newer Boxster or a different Boxster, it will be an S. Or, I'll bit the bullet and find a Honda S2000. I bought the BOxster because it cost me 1/2 as much as the Honda S 2000. And I don't regret my purchase, my 99 has been reliable, head turning, and a pleasure to drive. THe previous owner(s) put a handful of extras into it that set it apart for any of the other 3 or so Boxsters here in the Durango, Pagosa area of Colorado. I look for excuses to take her for a ride.:cheers:

I'm glad it's not a diesel, that's all that matters... :D

I do have 460 HP when needed... :dance:

Well, mine's an s, but it's a small s, you see, cuz it's a wussamatic! so at the track, they won't let me run with the 911 GTS RS guys cuz they've got really big S's! :eek:

Wussamatic. Think of it as the classic model of the PDK! :cool:
:cheers:

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.... :(

(I traded in my fancy badging and it's extra ego horse power for a sexy rear deck lid and 5 more mpg)

(( or maybe I'm embarassed I drive a boxster and not a 911 at all and we're all actually just hair dressers))

Jake, that is perfection! It' stealth. And speed yellow to boot! You can run with the big guys

We need a strong and fair scoring system to figure out which is the best boxster.

Let's see, max possible score is 100.

For color, black is 25 points, Everything else is 1 point
for model year, 2003 is 25 points, everything else is 5
and of course, S is 50 points. (this may be scored too low)

As I happen to drive a black 2003 S (yes, that's right, S!) looks like my "S" happens to get 100 points, and all you other poor saps (even those with a non black lowly base) can sort out whatever your miserable scores may be. ;)

Did I mention I drive an "S"?

It's a materialistic class system.
So the 911 is a higher class then the lowly Boxsters
So within our peasant Boxster class we still need a pecking order, S vs Base - 981 vs 87,86 - 987 vs 986
I didn't write the rules , that's just the way it is.
My 4 door car is the lowest level Kia Optima. I just can't understand why anyone would buy a higher level Optima. It's a Kia Optima for Pete's sake
But I absolutely love that I can get 36-38 mpg with 5 people and a full trunk and their warranty

But fortunately, while I may be on the bottom of the Kia Optima class, at least I have a Boxster S. Did I mention I HAVE A BOXSTER S, not a boxster base
Oh I would give my first born to get up to the 987 S class
Oh and I think black is only 24 points. Seal Grey is 25. So a 2003 S Seal Grey = 100. Jamesp you come in at 99. Sorry, maybe you can get it repainted and move up a class

My S was never black

100pts anyway.

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For 45 dollars you can climb the class system really quick.

It's great to see everyone here has a sense of humour. (yes HUMOUR), I'm Canadian and we speak the King's English up here in the frozen north.

Point is, we all love our Boxsters; 986, 987, 981, Base, S, GTS, Spyder, stock, modified, track car, garage queen, daily driver or whatever.

There is no more fun on four wheels with 2 seats then there is in a Boxster. Any variant.

"S" or non "S" does make a difference when identifying certain things, but I do see some people point it out on bit that make no real difference~

I like my current Boxster because it does not have an "S" badge on the back, just a plain jane "Boxster" emblem~

Which makes it all the better when I STOMP THEIR ASS WITH MY V8 CAR BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!



Was just looking at the Chevy crate motor page again last week... I think a new LT1 motor in a Boxster would be pretty sweet~

Would be interesting to see which is faster... I've got ya by 20 HP :p :dance:
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My 2004 is a classic, not "base."

Ah, so the 'base' model is like Coke Classic - the 's' is more like New Coke. Gotcha!

;)