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		|  09-10-2015, 07:12 PM | #1 |  
	| Cali Tom 
				 
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				clutch cost
			 
 
			what should I be prepared to pay a German car specialist to replace clutch 2000 986 S....... And if I decide to upgrade the IMS bearing to ceramic how much more cash will that add?     Peace to yall    |  
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		|  09-10-2015, 07:45 PM | #2 |  
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		|  09-10-2015, 07:54 PM | #3 |  
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			wow, saved a whole $89.25 what a bargain
		 
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		|  09-10-2015, 08:05 PM | #4 |  
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			Hahaha - those are actually all very fair prices.
		 
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		|  09-11-2015, 02:48 AM | #5 |  
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			Clutch kit and pilot bearing	$744.53Dual mass flywheel with bolt kit	$1,036.03
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		|  09-11-2015, 06:16 AM | #6 |  
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			How often do you have to change the clutch? Every 30k miles? 40k?
		 
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		|  09-11-2015, 06:24 AM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by EJ-Fresno  How often do you have to change the clutch? Every 30k miles? 40k? |  
That's kind of like asking "How long is a piece of string?"
 
It really depends on how you drive 
Could be 30k , could be 100k+
 
Change it when it starts to slip
		 
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		|  09-11-2015, 06:55 AM | #8 |  
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			I had the clutch and flywheel replaced at 90,000KM because clutch pedal was very hard to depress $2100.Bearing was fine and left alone.
 I do not track my car.
 
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		|  09-12-2015, 06:22 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Franco  I had the clutch and flywheel replaced at 90,000KM because clutch pedal was very hard to depress $2100.Bearing was fine and left alone.
 I do not track my car.
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When I picked up my '03 in '09 with 80k miles, the clutch was hard to depress.  The seller told me that is a sign that the clutch needs replacement.  How/why does a worn clutch make it more difficult to depress?  I'm currently at 92k miles, clutch feels the same.  No slippage.
		 
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		|  09-11-2015, 07:54 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by EJ-Fresno  How often do you have to change the clutch? Every 30k miles? 40k? |  
We have customer's with 200K on the factory unit, and others who are on their third by 100K.  Has more to do with driving style and environment than miles.
		 
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		|  09-11-2015, 08:26 AM | #11 |  
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			When people refer to has to do with their driving styles, what does that comprise of?  
 Are there certain driving styles that are easier or harder on clutches/transmissions? revving high, racing, engine breaking, "not knowing how to drive a standard transmission vehicle"/ mashing gears...
 
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		|  09-11-2015, 08:34 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by 01BOXYS  When people refer to has to do with their driving styles, what does that comprise of?  
 Are there certain driving styles that are easier or harder on clutches/transmissions? revving high, racing, engine breaking, "not knowing how to drive a standard transmission vehicle"/ mashing gears...
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Driving style covers a lot of sins, some people ride their clutches, particularly on hill stops; others beat up the clutch because they drive in urban environments (traffic light to traffic light).  Some are harder on them because they spend a lot of time on road course tracks.
		 
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		|  09-11-2015, 09:09 AM | #13 |  
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			Just had the flywheel and clutch done last week in the UK at an independent Porsche garage. Total bill was £1250
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		|  09-11-2015, 09:46 AM | #14 |  
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			Just shy of $2000 earlier this year for clutch, flywheel IMS and RMS.  I'm in Delaware where everything is cheeper.
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		|  12-06-2017, 06:18 AM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by bobbeck  Just shy of $2000 earlier this year for clutch, flywheel IMS and RMS.  I'm in Delaware where everything is cheeper. |  
Wow thats a great price.
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		|  12-07-2017, 06:17 AM | #16 |  
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				clutch cost etc
			 
 
			So in the end I chose to leave it at the shop and have the whole thing done, - yes I could probably do this myself, and save a grand but in the end there were several things to consider- one is that it looks like the IMS is close to failure, and the slave replacement is not so easy on the 97 models, as Porsche changed the connector, they don't make the original design and it hast to be replace which means replacing the whole line, new coupler MC,slave etc.  - I actually thought it was this first not the flywheel and disc, but here we are, I don't have the full final bill but having this all done a the same time saves a lot on labor$1400 for RMS, pressure plate and disc - new flywheel(OEM SACHS) adds $750, no labor , so now at $2100., ok now we add IMS of $600 for cylinder type dual row, one extra hour labor $100, $2800 +  some tax etc and im expecting $3,000 - clutch hydraulic upgrade new line MC SC etc is $300 plus another $100 labor -
 in the end, I guess I could have saved about $1200 labor cost to do it all myself, but I don't have the IMS puller tools and its done by a master mechanic that has been working for and on Porsche since before my 914 was new. I have to say am glad it will be done,, done right and warranty to boot.
 
 BUT that was my budget for new coil overs and exhaust!!! that will all have to wait another year or two,.
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		|  09-11-2015, 12:41 PM | #17 |  
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			When a clutch/transmission starts slipping what does that feel like? Does it mean anything if occasionally it might slightly harder to get into a certain gear? 
 I have only had the car for a couple weeks and just want some clarity.
 
 
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		|  09-11-2015, 12:58 PM | #18 |  
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			A typical symptom of a slipping clutch is the RPM goes up without a corresponding speed increase.
		 
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		|  09-11-2015, 01:52 PM | #19 |  
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			Sorry for the stupid question, but do we have to change/service clutch (or any equivalent) on a Tiptronic?   
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		|  09-11-2015, 02:05 PM | #20 |  
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			Another symptom of a weak clutch is it releases way high on the pedal (like almost before it runs out of room when you take your foot off the clutch).
 I had the clutch and RMS changed on my CSS this spring - $1700.  Right around 30K mi.  I use my CSS for DEs and I don't know how to heel-toe so I was abusing the clutch with high rev downshifts.  Since I'm now $1700 lighter, I've gone to using more brakes to slow me down.  A set of pads is $165.  The math works out better.
 
 My clutch shot craps after a DE w/e at my local track and 9 days before I was supposed to leave for a 3 day DE at COTA.  The folks at Woodhouse did an excellent job of working me into their schedule and got it done at 5pm the day before I left.  I really had to cross my fingers that everything was done correctly, but it was and I didn't have any issues to, at, or back from COTA.
 
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