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hancock1701 07-19-2015 09:27 AM

Ultima Waterless Wash Plus
 
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So I recently I have to park my car outside at work. Before I was able to park in a roofed structure, and in the garage at home. Here in SoCal, the car only gets dusty/dirty from being outside every day, but washing every week is just overkill.

I'm into detailing as well, and discovered the waterless wash, namely the Ultima Waterless Wash Plus. There are other brands too, but I read many good reviews on Ultima, so I went with it. Tried it today, and works very well. My car has a week's worth of dust from sitting outside (you can't see the dust unless you touch it). I diluted per the instruction, used a spray bottle, wiped with 8 fold microfiber towel in straight lines, and the car returned to the just washed look. In my case, the car is waxed and clay barred, so the paint is already very smooth to start with.

Overall, I really like this product. Economical, Fast, and perfect for my need, which is maintaining or light cleaning the car in between washes. I just want to share with those who didn't know about waterless wash products like me until now.
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Giller 07-19-2015 09:39 AM

Is there not a risk of scratching? The use of water helps get rid of loose dirt that if rubbed on the car could cause small scratches, no? That's the main reason I've never tried anything like this before. Am I over thinking it?

DMage 07-19-2015 09:53 AM

These products generally have a lot of lubricants in them to prevent rubbing the dirt around in the paint and causing scratches. I use Detailer Pro's waterless wash from Autogeek. Also have waterless wash microfibers - one side is gray for the first pass to pick up the dirt, and the other is blue for the final quick clean and dry.

BoxsterSteve 07-19-2015 09:58 AM

Sounds like a quick detailer concentrate more than an actual wash product.
Someone help me understand how this is "waterless" when it's a concentrate diluted with, um, water?!

Maybe it's just me, but I can't wrap my head around washing a car without first hosing off dirt & dust first.
I keep picturing an 800 grit wash cloth putting all kinds of swirl marks in the paint.
I'm glad you like it but this is me: :chicken:

JayG 07-19-2015 10:32 AM

I use Optimum No Rinse wash and shine(blue) and wash and wax (green). Its very similar.
Basically they have lots of lubricants in the stuff and the dirt lifts off onto the microfiber.

1 quart is around $20 on amazon. You use 1 oz for 2 gallons

I mix it into a 2 gal garden sprayer and spray it on the car. You can get it nice and wet and I use maybe 1/2-3/4 gallon for the car. I use 1 microfiber to get the dirt off and a 2nd to dry. takes maybe 15 minutes to was and dry the whole car and virtually no water on the ground. you can do it in your garage

TypeA 07-19-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 457922)
I use Optimum No Rinse wash and shine(blue) and wash and wax (green). Its very similar.
Basically they have lots of lubricants in the stuff and the dirt lifts off onto the microfiber.

1 quart is around $20 on amazon. You use 1 oz for 2 gallons

I mix it into a 2 gal garden sprayer and spray it on the car. You can get it nice and wet and I use maybe 1/2-3/4 gallon for the car. I use 1 microfiber to get the dirt off and a 2nd to dry. takes maybe 15 minutes to was and dry the whole car and virtually no water on the ground. you can do it in your garage

I started using this same product after cutting, polishing and waxing. At first my finish was smooth to the touch. When I take the car to work I am forced to park in a very dusty environment and from everything I have read California dusters are not recommended as they can scratch your clear coat. So I made a dilution of ONR and started using that with microfiber cloths. Not only was it far more time consumming to get the dust off but it also seem to leave specs of something on my finish that can easily be felt when you drag your fingers over the car. I have since stopped using it (it works great on glass tho) and now use just straight water and a microfiber cloth for heavy soil areas and the CA duster for basic dust removal. Since I dont drive the car in the rain or on wet roads it seems to be working well for me, but Im watching my clear coat to see if Im reintroducing scratches. Annoying the ONR seems to be either trapping dust or leaving a rough surface on my recently waxed car.

TypeA 07-19-2015 11:04 AM

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JayG 07-19-2015 11:59 AM

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Why are these ginormious images permitted?

Older version of forum application

Keep Portland weird :cheers:

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Lots of fun!

Luv2Box 07-19-2015 01:29 PM

I've used "Wet Paint Automotive Polishing Glaze" for three years with no water and no scratches. Takes less than a half hour to do the whole car, shines as good as wax and beads rain as good as wax. I run a fine duster gently over the car first then apply (no rubbing) and remove with a terry cloth towel.

hancock1701 07-19-2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Giller (Post 457911)
Is there not a risk of scratching? The use of water helps get rid of loose dirt that if rubbed on the car could cause small scratches, no? That's the main reason I've never tried anything like this before. Am I over thinking it?

Well, there's no guarantee that there won't be any scratching. But the product claims to have polymers to aid with lubricating. I currently use it on light dust, and use plenty of it, but not saturated, and wipe in one direction. The feel from using it is similar to washing with soap, the smoothness, gliding, and such.

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Originally Posted by BoxsterSteve (Post 457915)
Sounds like a quick detailer concentrate more than an actual wash product.
Someone help me understand how this is "waterless" when it's a concentrate diluted with, um, water?!

Maybe it's just me, but I can't wrap my head around washing a car without first hosing off dirt & dust first.
I keep picturing an 800 grit wash cloth putting all kinds of swirl marks in the paint.
I'm glad you like it but this is me: :chicken:

I used to be chicken about this too. This product has two different instructions on the back, one is for kinda like a quick detailer, the other is for rinseless wash.

I think what they mean about "waterless" is that you don't need to use water to rinse before or after the soap part. There's a ready to use bottle for this product, which requires no additional water to apply, but of course concentrate is much cheaper. My currently strategy is light dust, plenty of lubricant, and plenty of towels. I used all 8 sides of the towel, one per small panel, and only used one towel for the car.

hancock1701 07-19-2015 05:10 PM

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BruceH 07-20-2015 09:14 AM

I went to a PCA clinic on detailing last spring. The head of our Concours demonstrated the Griots car wash spray. He says he hasn't used water to wash his cars in years! Good enough for me, so I made the switch. Here in Texas, it is always a battle in the summer to wash and dry before the heat bakes the car. Now, I just use the spray in the garage, much more pleasant!

Luckyed 07-20-2015 09:25 AM

I have used Meguiar's Quik Detailer for years will no ill effects.
Porsche, Harley, cat.....nevermind.......

Perfectlap 07-20-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxsterSteve (Post 457915)
Sounds like a quick detailer concentrate more than an actual wash product.
Someone help me understand how this is "waterless" when it's a concentrate diluted with, um, water?!

Maybe it's just me, but I can't wrap my head around washing a car without first hosing off dirt & dust first.
I keep picturing an 800 grit wash cloth putting all kinds of swirl marks in the paint.
I'm glad you like it but this is me: :chicken:

Professional detailers use these waterless wash products on expensive cars.
If you're using the right type of towel, and preferably a new one, it's no problem.
I used a sponge, dunk it and hold it over each panel to soak the car before wiping it down.
I always use distilled water, dries clean. For the wheels, I use blue shop towels, also soaked. To dry I'll spray the car down with a quick detailer and buff with a long nap towel like the Griot's Garage green and blue towels. They sell otheir own waterless wash spray but its a little pricey unless you go for the big gallon sized container.
This is a great way to wash that only needs a light washing.

Optmium No Rinse (ONR) was the first to offer this waterless washing product. And for whatever reason other big brands did not jump in for a long time. Now everyone offers a version. Turtle Wax sells a waterless wash that I've purchased at Wal-Mart for like $4 during a promotion. You only need a few 1 oz. squirts.

epapp 07-20-2015 11:55 AM

Griots spray on car wash works great


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