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Old 04-03-2015, 03:09 AM   #1
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Got me on that one Kram, guilty on all counts.....................Wow.

Kind of reminds me of a favorite Groucho Marx quote:

"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
Great quote.
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:14 AM   #2
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Great quote.
Yes it is, but used as a rebuttal in a discussion you're not winning is just flaming. If I can't win I'll just insult the person. Many people use that tactic, but I expected more out of coreseller then to resort to that. I actually like reading his post on here.

You're guilty of it too, calling me a jerk and insinuating I'm a liar. I don't think as much of you as I do coreseller and actually expect it from you.
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:18 AM   #3
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Yes it is, but used as a rebuttal in a discussion you're not winning is just flaming. If I can't win I'll just insult the person. Many people use that tactic, but I expected more out of coreseller then to resort to that. I actually like reading his post on here.

You're guilty of it too, calling me a jerk and insinuating I'm a liar. I don't think as much of you as I do coreseller and actually expect it from you.
lol.....oh no! I've upset your feelings! Although I don't think I've ever insinuated you are a liar. A jerk, yeah, you might be. Don't know you well enough to say for sure. You might be a good guy who does dumb things from time to time. We all do.
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:35 AM   #4
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lol.....oh no! I've upset your feelings! Although I don't think I've ever insinuated you are a liar. A jerk, yeah, you might be. Don't know you well enough to say for sure. You might be a good guy who does dumb things from time to time. We all do.
This is insinuating I'm a liar.

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I've avoided this thread as I know reading too much would just annoy the heck out of me. I'm a big believer of staying within a reasonable amount of the speed limit and just generally not driving like a jerk.

Many have said - I anticipate, or, I only do it when no one is around, or some other such nonsense.

Seriously - if you want to drive like a jerk and put everyone's safety in jeopardy - go to the track. That's why we have tracks. And to talk about anticipating things - mechanical failures happen. Tires do blowout. I would bet that most people who get in an accident 'didn't mean to'.

Oh well, I guess this thread does help separate the selfish from those who actually think of others.
"You might be a good guy who does dumb things from time to time. We all do."

So are you being a hypocrite? Have you never put the throttle down on a public road? Never had a little fun through some twisty public roads?
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:45 AM   #5
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This is insinuating I'm a liar.



"You might be a good guy who does dumb things from time to time. We all do."

So are you being a hypocrite? Have you never put the throttle down on a public road? Never had a little fun through some twisty public roads?
Honestly, I stay within a reasonable amount of the speed limit. Most of the twisty roads I've been on, you have to slow down, they're just that twisty. Speed doesn't do anything for me and I'd rather not take the chance of a) wreaking my car b) hurting someone c)hurting myself.

I derive more pleasure from getting up to speed quickly - but once I get to that speed limit, on goes the cruise.

And I still don't see where I called you a liar. Maybe it's too early in the morning and I'm reading something wrong.
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Old 04-04-2015, 12:45 PM   #6
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Yes it is, but used as a rebuttal in a discussion you're not winning is just flaming. If I can't win I'll just insult the person. Many people use that tactic, but I expected more out of coreseller then to resort to that. I actually like reading his post on here.

You're guilty of it too, calling me a jerk and insinuating I'm a liar. I don't think as much of you as I do coreseller and actually expect it from you.


Just got back into town and caught up on this thread. KRAM, to be clear, I wasn't flaming. Due to your attitude on how to drive on public roads (running 150 mph plus for recreation), I honestly believe you are a selfish fool as I alluded to above, not an insult or tactic just pointing out the obvious.

Secondly, I have no interest in your respect or approval. I avoid people with myopic vision such as yours. As I stated before, maybe it's time to grow up and think about the possible consequences of your reckless actions.

Thirdly, I have received a few messages from other forum members agreeing with me but didn't want to participate in posting as such. Whether you buy that or not doesn't matter to me, it was just reassuring to see others know where to take their cars when they want to stretch their legs.

Lastly, as I stated to some who sent me messages regarding this, I have somewhat of a personal tie-in with this topic. I was training a new sales rep over 20 years back, helluva great kid. He was 26 years old, smarter than a whip and ready to break into a great career, also was recently engaged to what I refer to as a "First Round Pick", you get the idea. He was heading north on 31 in Northern Indiana to see his girl, you guessed it, he got clipped by some idiot running triple digits and somersaulted over a culvert into a tree. It was 1 AM and the roads were empty, almost.

He's still alive, never got married, lives in convalescent care and when coherent enough to communicate thinks he's AWOL from his squad in Vietnam......I doubt he was out of diapers during the Fall of Saigon. A wonderful future permanently extinguished due to another's selfish recklessness.

P.S. BrokenLinkage, if you think my having a problem with people running 150 plus mph on public roads is a "condescending holier-than-thou diatribe", wow.
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