IMSB - Did I Dodge A Bullet

[Jamesp]

Youch! the groove cut down the side of the key at the highest stress concentration screams, "break me!", and where does the punched out piece from the solid end of the IMS go? Through the new bearing if it's not retrieved. The concept is outstanding, but the execution leaves me cold.

[Jamesp]

Just realized, "BobRickel" is posting the same video on other IMS strings. Wonder if there's a sales pitch buried in there somewhere...

[BobRickel]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

Just realized, "BobRickel" is posting the same video on other IMS strings. Wonder if there's a sales pitch buried in there somewhere...

I have no interest, financial or otherwise, in the EPS IMS solution except to share a great product with others on this forum. I have owned/restored 429 vehicles (311 cars/trucks and 118 motorcycles), including 23 Porsches over the last 46 years and know a good product and engineering when I see it.

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by BobRickel

I have no interest, financial or otherwise, in the EPS IMS solution except to share a great product with others on this forum. I have owned/restored 429 vehicles (311 cars/trucks and 118 motorcycles), including 23 Porsches over the last 46 years and know a good product and engineering when I see it.

Nice numbers Bob. I'm super impressed. Did you know this great product ran unfiltered oil through a roller bearing? Is that how you'd treat the engines in your 4000+ vehicles? Well that's not how I roll, or any car company since the 1920's. Rock on Bob!

[flaps10]

"Unfiltered" is slightly misleading. We're not talking about "never been filtered nasty, metal filled oil", it's oil fresh off the oil pump, immediately before the oil would have been rammed through the filter.

That would make it the same as the splash oil supply used on any other option but the Solution which isn't available to all of us.

One could argue that the LN Solution uses "uncooled" oil since it takes the oil from the filter base but prior to going through the cooler (the next step in the oil path). That would be an unfair claim.

I'd say in both cases the oil is being filtered and cooled several times per minute.

And yes, I have the LN filter and magnetic drain plug ready to install.

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by flaps10

"Unfiltered" is slightly misleading. We're not talking about "never been filtered nasty, metal filled oil", it's oil fresh off the oil pump, immediately before the oil would have been rammed through the filter.

That would make it the same as the splash oil supply used on any other option but the Solution which isn't available to all of us.

One could argue that the LN Solution uses "uncooled" oil since it takes the oil from the filter base but prior to going through the cooler (the next step in the oil path). That would be an unfair claim.

I'd say in both cases the oil is being filtered and cooled several times per minute.

And yes, I have the LN filter and magnetic drain plug ready to install.

Hmm.... unfiltered, or "fresh off the oil pump, immediately before (my bold) the oil would have been rammed through the filter". Hmm... before the oil goes through the filter... seems to me that would be the very definition of unfiltered. And I am talking about nasty metal filled oil, there will be wear particles in all engine oil, that would be what the filter is for... I totally agree about the "same splash oil used in any other option". That's why I didn't go with those. Particulate in a mechanical bearing = failure. Best to keep the bearing sealed, and the grease in the bearing.

[flaps10]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

Hmm.... unfiltered, or "fresh off the oil pump, immediately before (my bold) the oil would have been rammed through the filter". Hmm... before the oil goes through the filter... seems to me that would be the very definition of unfiltered. And I am talking about nasty metal filled oil, there will be wear particles in all engine oil, that would be what the filter is for... I totally agree about the "same splash oil used in any other option". That's why I didn't go with those. Particulate in a mechanical bearing = failure. Best to keep the bearing sealed, and the grease in the bearing.

I worded it carefully enough that I felt like I acknowledged where the oil came from. Not trying to get into an argument James, I totally respect your input on anything I've seen here.

My point is that in a normal running engine there should be zero loose metal. Since it would seem that most wayward metal in the M96 comes from the stock IMS the last place I'm worried about pumping metal through is an already failing bearing.

Once any metal starts coming off that bearing the s*** show has begun, and the place I'd LOVE to see protected from loose metal would be the mains and rod bearings, and the LN full flow oil filter does that far better than the stock system.

Those main and rod bearings required more than a little wrench turning for me to hold in my hands.