03-29-2006, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by boostiality
"See thats the thing, I dont posses this brand loyalty thing at all..One thing to consider is that yes they are smaller displacement but I'm willing to bet the LS1 might almost weigh just the same, is way cheaper to mod and helluva alot more responsive and not to mention more reliable. I just dont see any advantages other then keeping the "purists" happy by swapping another p-motor in there that cost more in basically everything, isnt as responsive, etc etc. I'll let the purists have the whine, I like being dirty 
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You saying the 3.4 engine is as responsive?
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03-30-2006, 05:39 AM
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You saying the 3.4 engine is as responsive?
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No see the bottom of the paragraph. I stated it its not as responsive.
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03-30-2006, 09:35 AM
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Sounds like an intruiging project. I wouldn't want to actually own one myself, but then what was the Cobra but a Brit roadster with a V8 stuffed in it.
Just don't expect to be welcomed with open arms by the PCA crowd. Or any crowd that wears collared shirts, for that matter.
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03-30-2006, 09:39 AM
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That would be a monster. I don't know which would be more impressive - the V8 Boxster or an Asian with a mullet. Either way, I support this project.
I remember seeing a company in Canada that shoved 5.0 V8s in Miatas. I can't imagine...
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03-30-2006, 11:02 AM
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This topic reminds me of a Car and Driver review of the then new supercharged MR2. They summed it up in one statement:
"Too much engine for its chassy"
Frankly, this only made me want to trade in my 1986 MR2 for it as soon as possible but the wife vetoed the idea as it came forth from my lips. I didn't even get to finish the thought!
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03-30-2006, 01:50 PM
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if u did actually fabricate all the parts to relocated things and connect things, then you would have to start a new business. people w blown p-engines would be your target.
still think its a stupid white trash idea
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03-30-2006, 02:11 PM
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I love this forum and I get a kick out of all the upgrades, mods, and design effects people attach to their Boxsters. In any case, I have driven a Mustang convertible for the past 4 years before I bought a "bargain" Porsche Boxster. It's a '97, great condition and an "every-day driver". My goal is to keep it completely stock, drive it conservatively (to a point) and hopefully recoup enough of my investment to move up to a newer Boxster in about 18 months. For us old guys who historically have been intrigued by "Muscle Cars" the Boxster is a real eye opener. The response, handling, and even the acceleration on a 2.5 is quite different from an American sportscar. This is a Classic vehicle. For those of us who drive the old ones, hang in there..they are still truly Porsche's and worthy of the nameplate. As Randall states, be prepared for expenses. But if the car was well maintained, documented, and passes a PPI, you can still get a lot of car for the money. I don't sweat the maintenance too much since my Box is paid for. Big advantage due to the age of the car when I purchased it. Stuff goes wrong on 9 year old sportscars..I am prepared to deal with it! The key thing is to preserve the Porsche mistique, reputation, and desireability. Hold up the resale values and unique magic that surrounds the namebrand. I have No regrets for buying an "old one!"
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03-30-2006, 02:26 PM
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What really interests me about this type of swap is the torque that a Ls1 would add to the Box. This low rpm, low speed umph is a dimension of the driving that the Box lacks.
Together with the LS1's light weight, I think the result would be stunning. Low speed grunt, top speed thrills.
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03-30-2006, 03:02 PM
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the boxster is one of the best handling sports cars in the world. im sure you know that porsche tunes the handling so much that even the wrong tires throw everything off. after putting in a different engine that doesnt have its mass at the bottom like a flat 6, do you really think its gonna handle like a porsche. if you just want low end grunt buy a camaro.
by the time you fabricate the pieces to mount the engine and relocate some of its components, change the suspension components, cornerweight the car, etc....you have a very expensive car. a corvette or a used 911 start looking pretty good. you could get a nice c5 vette for less money than this monstrosity would cost. the c5 vette is pretty well balanced. it was a successful race car.
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03-30-2006, 04:03 PM
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if i can remember a few years ago someone in germany had a bi motor boxster made, it could have been gemballa but i am not so sure!
as for the Cobra any one that i have seen, regardless of this wonderful V8 you are all drooling over was fairly crap, lots of speed in a straight line, when it manage to go, but forget about corners, one of our member as a beautiful silver car with blue pipes and tubes and all, it looks good but what a hip of ****************e on the road!
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03-30-2006, 04:09 PM
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If we are speaking about the original Cobra, we are talking about 1960s technology. Having said that, it was very very fast and handled very well FOR ITS TIME.
If we are talking the Cobra kit cars, we they are kit cars.
Nuff said.
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Originally Posted by olly986
if i can remember a few years ago someone in germany had a bi motor boxster made, it could have been gemballa but i am not so sure!
as for the Cobra any one that i have seen, regardless of this wonderful V8 you are all drooling over was fairly crap, lots of speed in a straight line, when it manage to go, but forget about corners, one of our member as a beautiful silver car with blue pipes and tubes and all, it looks good but what a hip of ****************e on the road!
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03-30-2006, 04:12 PM
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03-30-2006, 04:13 PM
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"Engine
Any 283-350 Chevy small block V-8 will work, but the “F body” LT-1 is arguably the best motor for this application. These Chevy V-8 engines generally produce 250 horsepower and above, with streetable performance levels approaching 500 horsepower. The advantage of choosing the V-8 over the V-6 is a smoother running engine with less vibration and greater power. To further the advantages, the LT-1's out of a Camaro or Firebird actually have a compact enough fuel injection system and serpentine belt assembly that they fit under the stock hood without the use of a hood scoop. The installation of a V-8 engine results in some additional weight to the front of the vehicle. To compensate for the added weight, we recommend the use of heavier springs: 250 lbs. for the V-8.
Weight Distribution
Contrary to popular opinion, the superb handling characteristics of the 944 are not decreased by the addition of the V-8 powerplant. In normally aspirated versions of the 944, the weight distribution changes less than two percent. In the turbo cars, the change is less than 1.5 percent. A typical characteristic of a stock 944 is a slight "push" or understeer during acceleration. We have found that with the added weight of the V-8, the "push" condition actually diminishes. Furthermore, the more manageable torque and predictable horsepower allows the driver to easily transfer weight from front to rear allowing for increased car control. Quite simply it is much more fun to drive a converted 944."
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