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Old 06-18-2014, 09:35 AM   #1
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Since my parents gave me a Porsche and cover insurance, if the public would just chip in and give me a DD to keep the miles down and keep the Porsche safe, life would be grand......after all, that's still less than what my parents spent on my sister!

Sound about right?

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It's OK that your folks can afford to give you a 986 as your first car. I wish my dad was in that position. Just stop using the term "I own" when "you were given". Show a little respect. Most of us bought our own cars. It is very cool that you chose a 986. Just leave it at that.

It's OK that you come here to ask for help or brag about your car. That's what this site is for....

It's not OK to ask the public (me and everyone else on here) to fund a DD, no matter how creatively you do it.
I under no circumstance expected people here to donate, I brought it here as I wanted opinions on it, which are all appreciated, I am hard headed, but I do listen, it just takes a lot of it haha.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:43 AM   #2
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I under no circumstance expected people here to donate, I brought it here as I wanted opinions on it, which are all appreciated, I am hard headed, but I do listen, it just takes a lot of it haha.
My point was that we, the members of this forum, are the public. You're getting public opinions.
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My point was that we, the members of this forum, are the public. You're getting public opinions.
A public that is predisposed to like BigJake at that.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:53 AM   #4
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My point was that we, the members of this forum, are the public. You're getting public opinions.
Yes opinions, I was taking the ad other places for the kind if people I expected to give a crap about having their name on a dash haha. Which the opinions are all welcome, I was on the edge of if I should do this or not, but I really wanted to do it. I knew it was controversial and brought it here to get opinions and maybe have enough chime in to make me really want to do it, or talk me out of it. So all I can say is thanks to all, I feel I would have regretted it if I followed through, posts here are categorized as tough love and wise words for me.
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Fellas, I think we are forgetting a couple of real facts, 1) Jake is 16, seriously how much maturity are you expecting out of him? He is most definitely not part of the generation most of those in this forum are part of (I'm not one of them).
I for one have worked since I was 13, when I used to bag powdered milk.
Also lets point out the 2nd fact, in this time and age the crowdfunding could work!
Still that doesn't make it neither a great idea nor a success story. Remember we live in a world where people who bring so little to the world as Kim Kardashian have over 8 million followers on Instagram alone.
So, Jake is your idea an original one? No. Could it work? Heck yeah. Would I brag that I crowdfunded my 2nd vehicle because I didn't want my Porsche to get dirty? The answer to this last question would prove to us that you are just 16.
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:44 AM   #6
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Yes opinions, I was taking the ad other places for the kind if people I expected to give a crap about having their name on a dash haha. Which the opinions are all welcome, I was on the edge of if I should do this or not, but I really wanted to do it. I knew it was controversial and brought it here to get opinions and maybe have enough chime in to make me really want to do it, or talk me out of it. So all I can say is thanks to all, I feel I would have regretted it if I followed through, posts here are categorized as tough love and wise words for me.
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Fellas, I think we are forgetting a couple of real facts, 1) Jake is 16, seriously how much maturity are you expecting out of him? He is most definitely not part of the generation most of those in this forum are part of (I'm not one of them).
I for one have worked since I was 13, when I used to bag powdered milk.
Also lets point out the 2nd fact, in this time and age the crowdfunding could work!
Still that doesn't make it neither a great idea nor a success story. Remember we live in a world where people who bring so little to the world as Kim Kardashian have over 8 million followers on Instagram alone.
So, Jake is your idea an original one? No. Could it work? Heck yeah. Would I brag that I crowdfunded my 2nd vehicle because I didn't want my Porsche to get dirty? The answer to this last question would prove to us that you are just 16.
I have worked since the age of 9 and expected my kids to start working by the age of 16 at the latest, which they did. In Jake's case, I see the unbridled enthusiasm of youth. Jake is from a different era than most of us. Personally, if the proposal was worded a bit differently, it might have succeeded, what do I(we) know? I still believe Jake should have a job as a prerequisite to having a car. That was the deal I made with my kids. You want a car? Then you get to pay for gas, insurance repairs, etc. I told each that they needed a minimum of $1000 in the bank to cover repairs. It really sucks to be driving in Texas in the summer without air conditioning! I am glad to see that Jake has recognized the "tough love" on this forum. I am also glad that a 16 year old sees the value of advice and a Porsche! Remember, he could have just gone and done his project without asking for advice.Not many 16 year olds would ask a bunch of old farts for advice. As TO would say, "Just sayin"
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Fellas, I think we are forgetting a couple of real facts, 1) Jake is 16, seriously how much maturity are you expecting out of him? .
Bullseye. Fact is Jake's frontal lobe will still be developing until he's in his early to mid 20's. The instinct for caution, be it fiscal or physical, has not fully developed.

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Also lets point out the 2nd fact, in this time and age the crowdfunding could work!
Which is precisely the problem. If Jake were successful at begging, it would only encourage him (and his friends) to get things without working for them.
Meanwhile 16 year olds in Russia, China, India and other emerging nations are already onto advanced level studies, have that killer instinct to out-work their fellow students with the test scores to prove it. OTOH our 16 year olds spend all day on Instagram, Facebook and beg for money (albeit in novel ways) not to start a software business or to manufacture a new device but to fund leisure time activities or luxury.
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:52 PM   #8
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I under no circumstance expected people here to donate, I brought it here as I wanted opinions on it, which are all appreciated, I am hard headed, but I do listen, it just takes a lot of it haha.
Naw... you just expect us to buy your projects at a 23% mark up...

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CELs are never that bad on these cars right? 02 sensor or something right? Could buy the car for 7.3k or so, fix the issue, sell it for around 9 here on the forum?
One day, your safety net isn't going to be there and offers like thstone's are only going to be a faded memory. If you take any of what's been said to heart, take this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4yd2W50No&feature=kp

And that's not about crowd funding, buying a car that you think you can repair and flip, or any of the "I'm already defeated so I'm not going to try," crapola -- like you said earlier in the thread.

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Fair enough, but would you take the offer if you just had a ton of people say you can not even make a gofundme campaign. Which is fine, as I said, a very appealing offer for in a year or two when I can do it right.
Were it me and I had your so-called aspirations of being in marketing...? I'd have taken it, thrown myself into it and done nothing else but school (nah, you're on summer break, right?), any chores or help around the house I could provide for my family, and tried by best to prove the naysayers wrong. But that's me. And you are clearly not me or many of the others that posted here. Which is fine. So continue to post here your wild and crazy stuff. I mean you're averaging what? 140+ posts a month? That's over twice as many as me and I've been here since 2005. Ah well, enough of my yakking.



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