war on neighbors cat

[Pirate50]

Originally Posted by TypeA

Im sure theyre the pride of the neighborhood.

Ive had it happen to me. So yeah we disagree. A cat can easily scratch paint, especially with dirty paws.

I own a cat too, have for many years. But heres the catch: MY cat has never trespassed or dug up someones flowerbed. He has never left a coiled pile on the lawn for the next time someone mows, or chased off wildlife by hunting game. Why? Because I am an urban dweller who posses the intelligence and maturity to keep my cat indoors! It is owners (and those who support them) who are "cruel and stupid" for letting their animals roam free and violate other's rights. Want an outdoor cat? Buy yourself a plot of land where I wont catch your cat on my Porsche. Cause otherwise, if Im your neighbor, your cat violating my rights makes him free game sir. I dont have the time to trap and take him to the pound but you can consider yourself lucky I dont do so.

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by Pirate50

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

If your cat ends up in my yard, and those things happen, I would not worry about you. It would just be gone....or would not come back to my yard.

[tonichristi]

Originally Posted by Timco

If your cat ends up in my yard, and those things happen, I would not worry about you. It would just be gone....or would not come back to my yard.

I know a great place for you to get that vasectomy. Please do, for the sake of the rest of us.

Rapists and serial killers often exhibit signs of violence against animals first.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by tonichristi

I know a great place for you to get that vasectomy. Please do, for the sake of the rest of us.

Rapists and serial killers often exhibit signs of violence against animals first.

There you have it. Don't like someone else's cat in your yard? Rapist or serial killer material for sure. What an absurdly stupid thing to say about someone. How's that hope & change working out for you?

I've never killed an animal in my life. I've trapped cats and turned them in, and I've used the low power pellet pistol trick (mostly the pop that scares them) and that's it. You have a sick mind to think I would be violent against any animal unless my property or animals in my yard are involved. Keep your cat out of my yard. Pretty simple.

I don't mind bird poop because my car lives in a garage or in my shop unless I'm out and about.

[Joe B]

This is by far the stupidest thread I've ever read on a forum !

[Deserion]

Originally Posted by Joe B

This is by far the stupidest thread I've ever read on a forum !

Know how I can tell you've never been to The Car Lounge?

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by TypeA

I own a cat too, have for many years. But heres the catch: MY cat has never trespassed or dug up someones flowerbed. He has never left a coiled pile on the lawn for the next time someone mows, or chased off wildlife by hunting game. Why? Because I am an urban dweller who posses the intelligence and maturity to keep my cat indoors! It is owners (and those who support them) who are "cruel and stupid" for letting their animals roam free and violate other's rights. Want an outdoor cat? Buy yourself a plot of land where I wont catch your cat on my Porsche. Cause otherwise, if Im your neighbor, your cat violating my rights makes him free game sir. I dont have the time to trap and take him to the pound but you can consider yourself lucky I dont do so.

The DNA of a cat is not to be tied down to the four walls of a man-made structure. It's DNA is to go outside and hunt for prey, just like its big cousins the tiger, panther, mountain lion, cheetah,etc.
Keeping a cat indoors its whole life makes about as much sense as putting a 25,000 pound killer whale in a swimming pool. Or a bald eagle in cage. At least let these animals some free time in actual nature. It's not their fault that mankind decided that they should be kept indoors for man's personal amusement!

Secondly, cats and birds and possums and squirrels were part of the suburban landscape before you ever arrived with your award-winning flower bed. You knew that going in. Most likely there are no laws that indicate that you have the right to live in a suburban setting free of the aforementioned creatures, so I'm not sure how you discern that your rights are being violated. And I'm sure there aren't any laws that say cat owners can't let their cats outside or that they must be on a leash like with dogs. Are you going to take a sling shot to all the birds that poop from overhead for deliberately violating your right to a shiny Porsche? Seems like a big stretch to mention 'rights' in this context. If you want to hermetically separate your man-made Porsche from the natural enviorment of a suburb, then the best course of action would be to park in a garage. Sounds better than your suggestion of using a pellet gun, certainly involves less pain and drama.

Originally Posted by Pirate50

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

I have a neighbohr that walks his cat on a leash just like a dog. This person must have the patience of Job to pulled off that training.

[Mark_T]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

And I'm sure there aren't any laws that say cat owners can't let their cats outside or that they must be on a leash like with dogs.

Actually, in this city, that is the law. Cats are not allowed to run loose. If you have problem cats (problem owners actually) in your area you can borrow a live trap from animal control, trap the cat, and turn it in. The owner then has to pay big bucks to get his damn cat back.

Where this becomes an issue is that the animal control office is about a 40 minute drive for me, whereas the river is only a couple of blocks away. I wouldn't make that 40 minute drive twice for the same cat.

It's interesting that, since the implementation of the cat law, the inner-city bunny population has increased dramatically. Personally, I'd rather have the bunnies. Bunnies don't crap in my grandkid's sandbox.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

Actually, in this city, that is the law. Cats are not allowed to run loose. If you have problem cats (problem owners actually) in your area you can borrow a live trap from animal control, trap the cat, and turn it in. The owner then has to pay big bucks to get his damn cat back.

Where this becomes an issue is that the animal control office is about a 40 minute drive for me, whereas the river is only a couple of blocks away. I wouldn't make that 40 minute drive twice for the same cat.

It's interesting that, since the implementation of the cat law, the inner-city bunny population has increased dramatically. Personally, I'd rather have the bunnies. Bunnies don't crap in my grandkid's sandbox.

drowning a domesticated cat? That's some bad karma right there.

Cat haters have a city they can all happily live in it seems. Probably too cold for most, damn.

Bunnies? I've eaten them a few times at some very authentic Italian eateries. Tastes like chicken.
I have a friend from West Africa who was a big game hunter, he's eaten dog many a time.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

Actually, in this city, that is the law. Cats are not allowed to run loose. If you have problem cats (problem owners actually) in your area you can borrow a live trap from animal control, trap the cat, and turn it in. The owner then has to pay big bucks to get his damn cat back.

Where this becomes an issue is that the animal control office is about a 40 minute drive for me, whereas the river is only a couple of blocks away. I wouldn't make that 40 minute drive twice for the same cat.

It's interesting that, since the implementation of the cat law, the inner-city bunny population has increased dramatically. Personally, I'd rather have the bunnies. Bunnies don't crap in my grandkid's sandbox.

So rabbits, muskrats, racoons, foxes, woodchucks, squirrels, skunks, beavers, and deer as well as bear, coyote, and moose can roam free, but cats are a problem?

Rabbit poop all over the place and eat garden vegetation as well as carry disease, they are OK, but a cat isn't.

[TypeA]

Originally Posted by Pirate50

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

Yeah thats just it, I always give them a friendly warning first. But almost without fail you chase them off verbally and they come back eventually. Once I start to recognize the same cat, that is having to scale my fence to get in, well then clearly they havent gotten the hint and more stringent measures are called for. I dont poison, abandon, allow my dog to attack or shoot to maim but I will always get the point across with a mild BB shot to the rump (we're talking a weak gun from 50' here). If I was of the mindset of most Portlanders I wouldnt be making a point to keep my own cat indoors. Seems to me if your indoor cat gets out it getting run over by a car would be far more of a concern than what someone might do to him for crapping in their flower bed.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by TypeA

Yeah thats just it, I always give them a friendly warning first. But almost without fail you chase them off verbally and they come back eventually. Once I start to recognize the same cat, that is having to scale my fence to get in, well then clearly they havent gotten the hint and more stringent measures are called for. I dont poison, abandon, allow my dog to attack or shoot to maim but I will always get the point across with a mild BB shot to the rump (we're talking a weak gun from 50' here). If I was of the mindset of most Portlanders I wouldnt be making a point to keep my own cat indoors. Seems to me if your indoor cat gets out it getting run over by a car would be far more of a concern than what someone might do to him for crapping in their flower bed.

an animal getting run over by a car is an act of god. Sad yes, tragic, yes.

Shooting a cat is a violent deliberate act. I don't care how "weak" you think the gun is. it can still maim the animal. I don't care how great a shot you think you are, you could still hit it in the eye.

what about if you miss and hit the little kid next door in the face?

there are many other ways to scare the cat away that don't involve possibly hurting it

and don't forget a little cat poop in your precious garden won't hurt anything.

you just don't get it, do you

[Timco]

Originally Posted by JayG

an animal getting run over by a car is an act of god. Sad yes, tragic, yes.

Shooting a cat is a violent deliberate act. I don't care how "weak" you think the gun is. it can still maim the animal. I don't care how great a shot you think you are, you could still hit it in the eye.

what about if you miss and hit the little kid next door in the face?

there are many other ways to scare the cat away that don't involve possibly hurting it

and don't forget a little cat poop in your precious garden won't hurt anything.

you just don't get it, do you

Nor do you. It's my yard. Your cat is not welcome, but it's me that needs to just accept it. Got it........

[JayG]

Originally Posted by Timco

Nor do you. It's my yard. Your cat is not welcome, but it's me that needs to just accept it. Got it........

Oh I get it all right. Da big bad kitty cat is doing you harm
I just don't believe in harming house pets

And no I'm not a PETA member nor would be one

read post#91, maybe that will sink in

[Timco]

Originally Posted by JayG

Oh I get it all right. Da big bad kitty cat is doing you harm
I just don't believe in harming house pets

And no I'm not a PETA member nor would be one

read post#91, maybe that will sink in

Went back and read it just for you.

Keep your stupid cat out of my yard. Show some respect.

[aneal000]

Originally Posted by JayG

an animal getting run over by a car is an act of god.

Even if you swerve toward it?



(says the atheist)

[Pirate50]

Originally Posted by TypeA

Yeah thats just it, I always give them a friendly warning first. But almost without fail you chase them off verbally and they come back eventually. Once I start to recognize the same cat, that is having to scale my fence to get in, well then clearly they havent gotten the hint and more stringent measures are called for. I dont poison, abandon, allow my dog to attack or shoot to maim but I will always get the point across with a mild BB shot to the rump (we're talking a weak gun from 50' here). If I was of the mindset of most Portlanders I wouldnt be making a point to keep my own cat indoors. Seems to me if your indoor cat gets out it getting run over by a car would be far more of a concern than what someone might do to him for crapping in their flower bed.

Actually, the reason I keep the cat inside is because my neighbors have chickens, and we have coyotes that roam our streets occasionally. Small dogs,cats, and chickens have disappeared because of the coyotes. I also think that my neighbors would appreciate my efforts to keep my cats from scaring their egg laying chickens. I doubt the cat could or would hurt the chickens. I have other neighbors that don't keep their cats in and they are seen in my yard often,but I don't do anything about it. By the way, I'm not really a cat person, The cat was my recently deceased wife's cat. I didn't think she would appreciate me getting rid of it so it will continue to live with me and the dog.