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Old 02-23-2014, 02:16 PM   #1
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You wouldn't believe what is costs to buy a decent new car here. Example: new VW Passat wagon. Diesel. Comfortable, safe, relieable transpo for many years and so boring I get depressed just thinking about it. Prepare to spend $100K on that too. My Passat I bought new is 2005 cost me 70 large then. New Boxster base you say? about $160k. My next DD will likely be a Tesla... 460hp for about the same price as the VW because there is no car tax on electric cars here yet. And I can charge it for free just down the road and get everywhere I need to go with free chargers along the way while justfying a couple gas guzzling P-cars. But I digress.
That is crazy. So what's the average income for a college graduate working for say at least 10 years? Do they go into debt for the next 20 years to pay off that $100K Passat wagon?
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Old 02-24-2014, 01:58 PM   #2
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That is crazy. So what's the average income for a college graduate working for say at least 10 years? Do they go into debt for the next 20 years to pay off that $100K Passat wagon?
College degree and ten years experience I guess that person could be doing pretty well... just guessing but anything from $75k to substantially over six figures depending on what they do and if they live in a big city or do something related to the oil industry. Not that it matters 'cause everything here is expensive. A good craft beer will be at least $15 a pint and up in a bar, again taxes at work. Something has to pay for my "free" health care and standard of living, free education, etc. We have the highest quality of life anywhere in the world. And I know the difference, I'm from New York and lived in several states including Cali before moving over here.

Back to cars. The loaded Passat Alltrack is maybe not fair or representative. There are plenty of comparitively reasonable used cars and even some new ones, but they are still expensive. One of my employees bought a brand new Kia, that ran him $50K. But again... the exchange rate is not in favor of the dollar so it sounds worse then it is. At year 2000 exchange rates that car would have been $35K all things being equal, so you see why, at the start of this post, I didn't want to skew the discussion by bringing price into the equation. Cheers!
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A good craft beer will be at least $15 a pint and up in a bar
Now THAT, is just not right.......
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Now THAT, is just not right.......
Thats one reason I started a brewery.
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Thats one reason I started a brewery.
Need a Brew-master?
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Need a Brew-master?
Or a taster?

Just wonderin'...........

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Something has to pay for my "free" health care and standard of living, free education, etc. We have the highest quality of life anywhere in the world. And I know the difference, I'm from New York and lived in several states including Cali before moving over here.
I have to say after watching a couple seasons of Lilyhammer on Netflix, the thought of moving to Norway has crossed my mind a couple times. Then the weather here in Cali goes back to 65 degrees C in February, and I remember I don't like the cold.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:15 PM   #9
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I have to say after watching a couple seasons of Lilyhammer on Netflix, the thought of moving to Norway has crossed my mind a couple times. Then the weather here in Cali goes back to 65 degrees C in February, and I remember I don't like the cold.
I moved to Norway from the Bay Area myself. Life is good here, but it sure is different. Living in the western part of the country, we have very mild winters, but if you have a good life there in Marin I would stay put for the weather alone. Have an ethnic confusion enchilada at Avatar's in Sausalito for me sometime if that restaurant still there.
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