01-05-2014, 08:26 PM
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from oil change to nightmare
got all the stuff, got home. Jacked it up, everything was good. Went to inspect oil filter first. At 87k, it looks great. I noticed a metal particles, but it was what you would expect out of any vehicle with age. Not really of any "size", almost like a peice of glitter.
Went to undo the oil drain plug, and it popped right away. The head of the hex broke off, with the rest of bolt in the pan FLUSH. Went and got an extractor, with a drain plug the same size. They were out of the OEM porsche plug, got the typical 15mm one with same threads and size.
Extracted it, however the bolt instead of leaving from the bottom, went INSIDE the pan
When I used the drill bit, im assuming it went all the way through the bolt and pushed it in.
So, what to do now? Back hurts from the 6" clearance from garage floor. Wifes not too happy... Im assuming drop the 13 bolt oil pan and just grab it out the bottom. Reseal with rtf or the locktight stuff and im back in business within an hour?
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01-05-2014, 08:46 PM
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Holy mother of all things unholy. Yeah....do the oil pan thing. Sorry...that is worse luck (almost) ever. Wow.
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01-05-2014, 09:14 PM
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locktite
be careful not to use too much sealant, otherwise you will get into a much bigger mess and damage the engine...
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PS, tell your wife how much the dealer charges for an oil change and she will bring you a beer and offer to help you to clean the spill... LOL
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Last edited by Gilles; 01-05-2014 at 09:16 PM.
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01-06-2014, 03:32 AM
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Next time use a left hand drillbit....
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01-06-2014, 06:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hormoslyr
Next time use a left hand drillbit....
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+1
Sounds messy!
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01-06-2014, 04:02 AM
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Agreed, get an oil change quote from Porsche.
These things happen!! Sorry to hear this. Hope it went well.
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01-06-2014, 07:00 AM
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Don't use RTF == get the Loctite 5400(??)
That way you can inspect to see if there is any metal shavings in the pan as well.
Are those metal particles ferrous. BTW, my new to me 101K mile S has 0 particulates
in the filter I just pulled this weekend.
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01-06-2014, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seningen
Don't use RTF == get the Loctite 5400(??)
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Loctite 5900...............
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01-06-2014, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFP in PA
Loctite 5900...............
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Not sure if I should claim bad eyes -- or bad memory :-)
Just used it this weekend on my deep sump kit, got the grooves
in my palm to prove it :-)
Mike
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01-06-2014, 10:04 AM
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Haste makes Waste?
This was merely an Omen telling you the metal flakes in your filter indicate you should pull & clean your sump pan. Buy a LN drainplug to prevent future plug problems. Make sure the pan & case mounting flange are sanitized with rubbing alcohol before applying sealant & reassembling. Haste makes waste!
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01-06-2014, 12:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BYprodriver
This was merely an Omen telling you the metal flakes in your filter indicate you should pull & clean your sump pan. Buy a LN drainplug to prevent future plug problems. Make sure the pan & case mounting flange are sanitized with rubbing alcohol before applying sealant & reassembling. Haste makes waste! 
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You should expect to have to remove some old sealant -- so be sure to have something to scrub it off.
I used a 3M Tapered Bristle Disc,2 In Dia,80G - Abrasive Bristle Disc-Cup Shaped - 6RX77|18732 - Grainger Industrial Supply
on a air tool -- but a cordless drill would work as well.
I'm sure it or something similar can be found locally.
Mike
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01-06-2014, 11:28 AM
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Dropping the oil pan and grabbing it out like you indicated sounds like a good idea. There is a ton of oil- make sure you oil pan is well equipped.
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01-06-2014, 02:25 PM
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I've also heard to get a couple of extra bolts and cut the heads off and put them in on the corners as a guide so when you fit the pan back on you have it lined up just right and don't smear the sealant around.
This article shows where the prying points are.
I haven't done this particular job but I just had my boxster up on jack stands for the last few days and there was a decent amount of room, and I did it in my garage. You can jack the whole car with two lifts (one in the back, and then one lift from either side in the front, so if you are close to a wall you can lift from the other side) I got the jack and the stands from Harbor Freight (on sale of course  )
If you get the LN plug (I have one) be sure to note the lower torque - it is hard to miss as they stick it on a label over the hex hole on the head.
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01-06-2014, 02:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steved0x
If you get the LN plug (I have one) be sure to note the lower torque - it is hard to miss as they stick it on a label over the hex hole on the head.
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The problem occurs the following year when the sticker is gone and you forget about the lower torque spec. Not something I'm likely to forget twice, though. Well, probably not, anyway. phhhhhhht ... 'ere!
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01-23-2014, 04:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_T
The problem occurs the following year when the sticker is gone and you forget about the lower torque spec. Not something I'm likely to forget twice, though. Well, probably not, anyway. phhhhhhht ... 'ere! 
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Suggestion - take a Sharpie and write the new torque spec on the oil pan beside the plug. Should be hard to miss!
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01-06-2014, 03:49 PM
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perfect oppourtunity to grab a sample for a Blackstone Labs oil analysis?
The glass is always half full.
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01-23-2014, 10:50 AM
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Scotchbrite and solvent, like acetone, mineral spirits etc will get all the old sealant off the mating surfaces of the sump plate and sump. Be sure to examine and clean out the pickup tube. Old sealant tends to collect there like a bunch of worms.
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01-23-2014, 05:07 PM
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That is good idea. Now, if I could just remember where I put that sharpie...
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