Two and a Half Men

[Nine8Six]

There are a "lot" of cars here designated for women only, but I rarely heard of any "real men" car yet. No muscle car culture... sedans rules here!

Funny but true fact; (married) Chinese men are NOT allowed to own a sport car here in China. Okay by law however both families could disgrace him for being associated to the playboy type.

In the men Porsche category, only Cayenne sadly. Very rarely you will see a guy driving a Boxster 1-on-25 maybe, only women (and me!) drives Boxsters, Crocs or 911s here

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

only women (and me!) drives Boxsters, Crocs or 911s here

I'm moving to china haha.. I'd take a 7 over a 10 if she was in a (non SUV) porsche.

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

I'm moving to china haha.. I'd take a 7 over a 10 if she was in a (non SUV) porsche.

No luck, they are pretty much all taken already. It is fashion to equip your mistress with a Porsche car... especially when you are a rich busy man and the owner of a Porsche Cayenne already

PS. No 7 here mate, all #10. it's Shanghai, not Beijing!

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

There are a "lot" of cars here designated for women only, but I rarely heard of any "real men" car yet. No muscle car culture... sedans rules here!

Funny but true fact; (married) Chinese men are NOT allowed to own a sport car here in China. Okay by law however both families could disgrace him for being associated to the playboy type.

In the men Porsche category, only Cayenne sadly. Very rarely you will see a guy driving a Boxster 1-on-25 maybe, only women (and me!) drives Boxsters, Crocs or 911s here

Now THAT is ironic. The average Boxster owner here in the U.S. is a middle-aged to senior citizen male. One whose playboying days are well behind him. Younger drivers in their 20's really don't have the discretionary income to purchase or maintain an impractical car like the Boxster. Once they move up the income ladder in their 30's and early 40's and are starting families the Boxster's lack of a back seat make buying a Carrera the more acceptable option for the wife as you can at least fit a couple of kids in the back. So at the end of the day most Porsches are owned by pretty traditional family men. And by and large the average American woman avoids a manual transmission car and opts for an automatic transmission SUV, a Range Rover being her dream car.

[Timco]

I thought it was more about the passenger...

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by Timco

I thought it was more about the passenger...

why is there an AK47 in this Porsche? You'd expect at least and AR15...

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by Timco

I thought it was more about the passenger...

Your boy just died over the Holidays.............

Mikhail Kalashnikov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm a fan of the AR's also but if thrown in the bush and the muck, I'd prefer to have an AK.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by coreseller

Your boy just died over the Holidays.............

Mikhail Kalashnikov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm a fan of the AR's also but if thrown in the bush and the muck, I'd prefer to have an AK.

That's my Christmas present to myself. Bought a stripped imported Romanian WASR 10 ban period AK and put wood furniture on it. Need to thread and shorten the barrel still.

I'm a gun collector. Big WWII collection (all the Band of Brothers guns), cowboy, a few ARs (one is a build of Arnold's in Predator with the M203 launcher) and several shotguns. Also have a Polish AK74 that's a ton of fun to shoot. Only German gun is a WWII surplus flare gun.

I read an article that said General Kalashnikov would be dug up in a month, inspected, and returned to service and was expected to be fine.

[BYprodriver]

Despite my love of the AR-15 I developed in bootcamp, I sold mine & got a H&K Benelli
M1 Super90 Combat Shotgun. Anticipating closer range targets.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by BYprodriver

Despite my love of the AR-15 I developed in bootcamp, I sold mine & got a H&K Benelli
M1 Super90 Combat Shotgun. Anticipating closer range targets.

Get both!!

I'm over 30 firearms now. Love shooting each one. I load almost every bullet I shoot as well and make match quality ammo and gunsmith all my friend's guns.

Only 2-3 are really defense. Tommy guns are not practical SD guns but fun as hell!! I let the kids and scouts at the range shoot the Thompsons. They like to get pics with the fun guns. Like working on the Porsche, I enjoy gunsmithing.

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by Timco

That's my Christmas present to myself. Bought a stripped imported Romanian WASR 10 ban period AK and put wood furniture on it. Need to thread and shorten the barrel still.

I'm a gun collector. Big WWII collection (all the Band of Brothers guns), cowboy, a few ARs (one is a build of Arnold's in Predator with the M203 launcher) and several shotguns. Also have a Polish AK74 that's a ton of fun to shoot. Only German gun is a WWII surplus flare gun.

I read an article that said General Kalashnikov would be dug up in a month, inspected, and returned to service and was expected to be fine.

My father gave me a WWII era M1 Garand many years back as a present, he obtained it from the CMP while they still had them. I also have his Ithaca manufactured 1911 A1 .45 that was his personal side arm while active in the service. He was an officer and purchased it from the military for $25.00, still have the receipt. I use to be into firearms but lost interest several years back, still have them all in the safe. Those 2 do have special meaning to me though.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

...and are starting families the Boxster's lack of a back seat make buying a Carrera the more acceptable option for the wife as you can at least fit a couple of kids in the back.

Uh... have you ever tried it? "Fit" is relative in the 911 and you are limited in car seat options. And before anyone questions this, I'm speaking as someone who did for 3+ years; it ain't easy. To begin, if you opt for the Britax, you generally have to remove the base. Also, many opt to remove the seat backs for the extra space. Then, as you kids move up to the forward-facing [I had not found a rear-facing seat that could fit in the back (though I had the 997.2)], you still have to dig out the chair locks from the rear, because until the 991, there were not clasps in the back seats -- best innovation, IMO, with the 991 was exposing the seat locks...

Now, if 2 kids are involved, you can put both in the passenger side of the car, leaving it nearly impossible for 2 adults to fit in the car -- assuming one kid is in a rear facing. Once one of the kids begins to grow (and if you are putting the rear-facing in the passenger side), you need to move the bigger child behind the driver. Now, I'm not a tall person at 5'9", but you do need to really push the seat forward to fit the kid in the back (convenient only if you have the programmable option), and it was uncomfortable.

However, once both kids are in rear-facing seats, it is possible to have 2 adults in the car... but it is cramped even if both people are on the shorter side and kids like to kick. Also, it really only leaves the frunk as the only place to put things, so it's not like you'd take the car out for a family trip anywhere (Edit: We did once drive, with one child, to NV from UT and it was only accomplished by driving during the child's sleeping cycle as it was a 5-6 hr drive).

So, let's all put the above aside, as it is still a "choice" and I made the choice to have a 911 when we had our second kid. Having said that, it isn't easy getting the kids in-n-out, and buckled. Even once in, it isn't easy to do the buckling. I know -- for sure -- my Wife NEVER put the kid in the back, and only maybe checked if the buckles were secure a few times. For those that haven't tried this, handling a 20+ lbs child that is moving isn't as easy as it sounds, especially when they don't "want" to be in the car seat (which is usually most of the time when they are young and awake). Now imagine it when it is raining or snowing...

In summary, while I don't dispute that there are enthusiast Wives out there that opt for the 911 with 2 kids, the way you frame your statement above implies that the husband is doing the car purchasing for the wife (meaning to me, that the Wife likely isn't an enthusiast) and, as such, likely WILL NOT go through the trouble of driving a 911 as the primary, secondary, or even tertiary car. Likewise, I seriously doubt any husband would put up with all the complaining about the inconvenience. I mean, how are the 911 soccer moms going to fit all the kids gear in a 911 with one or two kids?

As a background note, I did get my first boxster on my first wedding anniversary prior to having kids (pre-starting a family) and drove it through the first kid before getting the 911 with the 2nd kid. So, to quote Ringo, "I'm warning you with Peace and Love..." don't do it.

P.S. Does the Average American Woman actually dream of cars? Personally, my Wife doesn't talk about them and is happy with the Mini brand. She doesn't much care to drive the X3 as it is "too big" so, I'm pretty confident that she doesn't want the RR. Guess I got an outlier.