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Johnny Danger 09-25-2013 07:23 PM

Thinking of Selling the Dangermobile ?
 
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I'm thinking of selling the Dangermobile. My decision comes for no other reason than I simply don't have the time to enjoy it anymore. Any thoughts on what it might be worth ?

2000 S with 22k original miles that's in beyond pristine condition with no "stories" and nigh on to 40k in the following upgrades:


-Hamann front bumper and side skirts - CSR Automotive Germany 997 GT3 style rear bumper
- Factory painted console, yellow seat belts and stitching
- M&M Exhaust Germany - custom headers and HJS cats
- Secondary cat delete
- 9ff custom catback exhaust
- BBI AutoSport LWUP
- FVD/Brombacher ECU program
- Modified plenum
- Evolution Motorsports high flow air intake
- 9ff custom PSS9 coilovers
- H&R front and rear swaybars
- Mantis Racing rear stress bar
- Rennline front and rear strut braces .
- Champion RS-98 one piece forged wheels with Goodyear F1 tires
and more ....
- Recently performed LNE dual row IMSB retro-fit and new RMS
- A recent re-alignment and thorough corner balancing by a leading race prep facility

Crono0001 09-25-2013 07:43 PM

What the hell? This isn't JD

BYprodriver 09-25-2013 07:50 PM

Wow, that's hard to say. I'm sure it will be limited by what else can be bought with the same sum. I have wondered the same about my car with the rebuilt original engine.
I would guess $29,995 for a 6 month or less time on the market. Probably make more money putting it back stock & selling parts separately. :)

Trey T 09-25-2013 08:13 PM

What's the value in the aftermarket parts?

Johnny Danger 09-25-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 364995)
Wow, that's hard to say. I'm sure it will be limited by what else can be bought with the same sum. I have wondered the same about my car with the rebuilt original engine.
I would guess $29,995 for a 6 month or less time on the market. Probably make more money putting it back stock & selling parts separately. :)

The stock parts are long gone !

BruceH 09-25-2013 08:38 PM

Unfortunately, nothing near what it's worth to you. I would guess somewhere in the mid twenties by someone who would appreciate what you have put into it. I would start with what BYprodriver said. Advertise on here, Excellence Magazine and PCA. The thought of you selling it makes me sad though. Personally, I would still hang on to it and enjoy it what little time you can. Life has a way of changing. Six months down the road, you might find you have the time. I am sure you have thought it through though. It's just such a nice car, I hate to see you part with it.

Timco 09-25-2013 10:38 PM

Got a cup holder?

Glove box?

Great looking ride, but too flashy for my taste!

j.fro 09-26-2013 01:49 AM

This isn't a personal shot, just a question...
You don't put on a lot of miles, so how much "less time to enjoy it" can you go? Are you traveling and concerned about storage?

Eric G 09-26-2013 02:01 AM

GLWS if you go that route. Cars are a funny thing as they come and go from our lives. I hope if you go down this path you won't regret it as you have poured yourself into this car.

With that said, what are you considering as its replacement?

jacabean 09-26-2013 04:02 AM

Keep The car ! it will not be worth anything close to what you put into it . How long have you owned it ?

paintboy 09-26-2013 04:11 AM

When I bought my car it was worth 10K. In two years I have put 10K into it ( motor mounts, new AOS, MAF, brakes, clutch, fly wheel water pump, 100K tune up at 80K as long as engine was out) The car is now worth 10K.

southernstar 09-26-2013 04:19 AM

JD, I'm with those who suggest that you hold off on selling the Dangermobile. You have put in not only a huge amount of money and effort, but have personalized the car so that it is not only an incredible example of the 986S, but a reflection of you and your tastes. It is a now virtually a 'one-off' and I can guarantee that you will not - cannot replace it with anything that will provide anywhere near the satisfaction and pride of ownership, for anywhere near the money you would receive on a sale.

In time I believe that the values of good (let alone great) examples of the car will start to rise. I have opined elsewhere that IMO, the 2000 986S dual-row is the best of the breed and yours may well be the best of the best. I believe that in time the furor over the failed IMS bearings will die down and the original 986 will be recognized and admired for not only its design, but its place in the history of an important marque.

From a purely practical perspective, let's put it another way - why buy high and sell low? I, for one, believe that the market has already bottomed. Since you have already invested a huge amount and, now that you have upgraded the IMS, since your cost of continued ownership should be quite low (especially with continued low annual mileage), why not keep it and see if the market improves?

Brad

heliguy 09-26-2013 04:43 AM

Please say it isn't so, JD...don't leave us.

Mark_T 09-26-2013 05:47 AM

This is most disappointing. I hope that, even if you do the unthinkable as sell the Dangermobile for mere money, that you will continue to hang out here. Your unique perspective is a lot of what makes this forum a great place, not to mention your valuable technical knowledge on body kits and wheel fitment.

Perhaps you just need to re-kindle the relationship. You could try a planned date night each week to see if that helps you to re-connect. Think about how seeing her in someone else's arms would make you feel.

Johnny Danger 09-26-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by j.fro (Post 365018)
This isn't a personal shot, just a question...
You don't put on a lot of miles, so how much "less time to enjoy it" can you go? Are you traveling and concerned about storage?

Because the road I live along is 2 mile stretch of unmaintained gravel, I've been forced to garage the D-mobile elsewhere for the last 2 1/2 years. Unfortunately, the only available garage that I could find - was located 10 miles away (that's 10 miles of backroad driving) With that said, unless I plan on going for a substantial drive , it's never convenient to take it out. In fact, the amount of time it takes for me to swap cars back and forth adds about 40 minutes to whatever I'm doing. So, I'm always discouraged from wanting to just hop in the car and take it out around town or on short drives. This probably sounds trivial to most, but it's a total pain in the a**. For that reason, I probably only drove it 1,000 to 1,500 miles this Spring/Summer. Prior to this, the vehicle was kept at a friend's place that was located 70 miles away, and for that reason it never got driven. :(

Johnny Danger 09-26-2013 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric G (Post 365019)
GLWS if you go that route. Cars are a funny thing as they come and go from our lives. I hope if you go down this path you won't regret it as you have poured yourself into this car.

With that said, what are you considering as its replacement?

Unless I relocate, nothing along the lines of a sports-car.

ChrisZang 09-26-2013 05:57 AM

Well, that strikes me as the equivalent of the U.S of A. selling Mt. Rushmore ....

About the price: Hard to say: If you hold out long enough, maybe $25k, but as they say in Winterfell: "Winter is coming" (in your area) and selling a convertible might be a bit harder for the upcoming months.

PS: I am missing my Boxster which I sold in the spring (it was more fun to drive than my 997), and my kids still hate me for it.

recycledsixtie 09-26-2013 06:02 AM

I am sorry to hear that you might be leaving us. Be careful what you wish for. I am considering selling my 2001 Box base but would get another P car for sure. I think that you would likely have withdrawal symptoms if you sold yours. Subsequent sale could lead to your buying another P car or sessions with a shrink for P car withdrawal syndrome. We will definitely miss you!

southernstar 09-26-2013 06:17 AM

JD, perhaps an answer is to book the odd weekend or longer period for a road-trip in the Dangermobile through some nice sportscar country (and you certainly have some nearby). Rather than short jaunts, this summer my wife and I took a rather lengthy (11 day ) trip to Nova Scotia where we drove the Cabot trail. We returned back from the Canadian east coast through Maine, Mass, and NY and had a great time. Last weekend we took her to a beautiful area in northern Ontario and in the spring, took a nice road trip to historic Niagara-on-the Lake, Ontario and its many wineries. My wife was initially reluctant about longer trips in the Box, but we purchased fitted luggage and she found it most enjoyable, especially when we had the top down.

If you are not a member of the PCA, perhaps you should consider joining. They too run many orgainized drives through great areas with stops at interesting restaurants, etc. Heck, your car should also be shown and I would expect you would end up winning some trophies - fun, but also utlimately a good thing in terms of resale. It may also introduce you to a potential purchaser - a fellow Porschephile who will fall in love with your rather unique vehicle and be prepared to pay for the privilege of owning her.

Brad

jb92563 09-26-2013 06:22 AM

I think for the loss of investment value in the car you should consider moving your abode to a location more suitable to driving your Boxster.

I recommend a warm climate, hilly, mountanous or canyoned area with roads designed by cross eyed road designers who can't draw a straight line if their life depended on it.
Kalifornia Here we come!
http://www.prewarbuick.com/img/featu...k/b472f7e0.jpg


Real Estate and mortgage rates are low now so its a good time to take advantage.
( "Mort" the latin abreviation for Death :eek:)

Quality of Life is often overlooked in ones life adventures and obviously the Boxster is a passion of yours. Selling it will likely lead to depression and anxiety.

I think you should seek counseling before you make any rash decisions to sell your pride and joy and get to the bottom of your malady before you do something you will regret.

I mean really, what brings you more joy, a wad of cash that will get spent into thin air, or driving with the top down on a nice day in your beautiful Boxster, even if only occasionally, when ever the urge/obsession strikes you?

rp17 09-26-2013 06:22 AM

Wow Jd. Selling the Danger mobile? That car is personalized for you! Might as well keep it. The offers I would imagine, would be like a slap in the face. They knoweth not.

2003S 09-26-2013 06:31 AM

But think of the forum's fitness! Without the workout series, we'll all get fat & slow!

trimer 09-26-2013 06:52 AM

hey boss...sorry to hear about this. I hope you keep it. I sold my first one, bought my second 356 and missed my boxster so much i bought another one.

I know you have been on these boards for a long time and you have seen the same question come up time and time again and I want to be sure to be real with you but I am zero expert on this. I paid way too much for mine because it was local and I know the story on the car. that to me was worth a bunch... I am sure you know that with these cars...reality is any mods you do will not come back in the form of a huge payday.

it is a 2000s with low miles, which if anyone reads these threads, most are told that low miles are voodoo...but I would assume yours is one that is in perfect condition just by looking at it and knowing your passion for it.

I am seeing people buy these cars on here for dirt cheap...even the S models. I am not an expert but I would say you have to take most of the mods and forget about them and you will probably see 18 to 20K for the car tops...But, I hope with all that you have done, someone on here will snap that thing up and pay you a boat load as it is obviously worth it. I hope you get more than 25K for it. I would have offered you that if not more...but I am not a huge fan of the yellow. It is toooo damn fast looking...

Good luck man. I hope you get what you want for it!

jaykay 09-26-2013 11:21 AM

So does this mean the Mayans were off by a year?

thstone 09-26-2013 11:36 AM

I checked: Hell IS starting to freeze over.

thstone 09-26-2013 11:48 AM

To the right buyer, this is a $40K car. Would cost $20K more than that to recreate. But its got to be the right buyer.

thstone 09-26-2013 11:51 AM

One more thing: I'd pave the friggin' road before I sold a Porsche!

teleski 09-26-2013 12:16 PM

Where in Mass are you btw?

coreseller 09-26-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 365094)
So does this mean the Mayans were off by a year?

I liked that one........

Reasons not to sell:

-you are bored with it (look at all the stripe talk) for now, let it sit until spring
-you will likely replace it (you like performance cars, buying another would be inevitable) and start modding whatever that is all over
-as stupid as it sounds, to a degree that car defines you, unless you've moved on or grown beyond that stage of your life
-it is beautiful. even if it is a 986 it looks better than anything else of that or the 987 series does
-dealing with the schmucks trying to lowball you during the selling process will cause you to commit several felonies
-you will lose your arse, but that is inevitable also when you sell
-etc.

TeamOxford 09-26-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 364991)
Any thoughts on what it might be worth ?

To you - $60K+
To a knowledgeable enthusiast - $25k-$40K
To the open market - $22K

Just my thoughts. Final thought is to not sell it. If I still lived in New England, I would offer to store and "exercise" her for you..............;)

TO

Johnny Danger 09-26-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teleski (Post 365103)
Where in Mass are you btw?

The border of central and western Mass.

Johnny Danger 09-26-2013 03:52 PM

My thanks to everyone for their input. Unless there's a male Kardashian sibling that I'm unaware of - who's willing to pay-out some cash, it seems unlikely that I would ever find the right buyer anyway. So I guess I'll probably hold onto the Dangermobile. Anyone close by who wants to borrow it for awhile ?

BoxsterSteve 09-26-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 365122)
My thanks to everyone for their input. Unless there's a male Kardashian sibling that I'm unaware of - who's willing to pay-out some cash, it seems unlikely that I would ever find the right buyer anyway. So I guess I'll probably hold onto the Dangermobile. Anyone close by who wants to borrow it for awhile ?

I'm about 6 hours away... that's still "close by", right? :D

Johnny Danger 09-26-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxsterSteve (Post 365124)
I'm about 6 hours away... that's still "close by", right? :D

Isn't already snowing up there ?

RawleyD 09-26-2013 04:46 PM

Car clearly hasn't been driven enough. I would have a thorough PPI.

TeamOxford 09-26-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawleyD (Post 365131)
Car clearly hasn't been driven enough. I would have a thorough PPI.

Dude,

You are SO outta line................

TO

Jager 09-26-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 365042)
Because the road I live along is 2 mile stretch of unmaintained gravel, I've been forced to garage the D-mobile elsewhere for the last 2 1/2 years. Unfortunately, the only available garage that I could find - was located 10 miles away (that's 10 miles of backroad driving) With that said, unless I plan on going for a substantial drive , it's never convenient to take it out. In fact, the amount of time it takes for me to swap cars back and forth adds about 40 minutes to whatever I'm doing. So, I'm always discouraged from wanting to just hop in the car and take it out around town or on short drives. This probably sounds trivial to most, but it's a total pain in the a**. For that reason, I probably only drove it 1,000 to 1,500 miles this Spring/Summer. Prior to this, the vehicle was kept at a friend's place that was located 70 miles away, and for that reason it never got driven. :(

Easy solution... get yourself one of these:
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1380251532.jpg

Or one of these:
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1380251782.jpg

And a beater car/truck to pull it with.

Now you can drive your two mile gravel road, pulling the Dangermobile, find a parking spot, unload the Dangermobile and GO!

Timco 09-26-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 365121)
The border of central and western Mass.

Fall River! I knew I recognized the style.....;)

Er, Fawl Wiva

Just for the record, my wife made me the same ultimatum bud. I chose to just paint the damn house, not sell the car!!

Hayden 09-26-2013 08:48 PM

Well, here's my input: start viewing your vehicle differently. By that I mean, drive it a lot, and put the top down whenever you can. I understand you've put a lot into it, but that's probably been fun in and of itself. It could be a show car, but I think you could gain your investment back in smiles and letting it get a little scratched up. Perhaps even raise it in the winter and put snow tires on it. You'll never get that money back, so you can either sell and lose, preserve and snore, or pretend it's brand new and you are going to drive it til the wheels fall off and have a blast. Surely this isn't too dangerous for man such as yourself. :) Whatever you decide, good luck and best wishes!

edit: didn't realize it was parked away from your house. Tough call. Move closer to your car? haha

teleski 09-27-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 365122)
My thanks to everyone for their input. Unless there's a male Kardashian sibling that I'm unaware of - who's willing to pay-out some cash, it seems unlikely that I would ever find the right buyer anyway. So I guess I'll probably hold onto the Dangermobile. Anyone close by who wants to borrow it for awhile ?

Granville? Tolland? or further north? My folks live in south Berkshire County. I would gladly babysit the Dangermobile if I still lived back east. Perhaps my mom would be interested. She's the 80+ y.o. lady tooling around the Berkshires in a yellow TT. She would just love the Boxster!!


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