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Redmond Boxster 09-16-2013 03:18 AM

Basic service needs help please
 
Hi guys

I just want to do a standard oil change & filter etc

I have a 1998 black box just want to know what the best oil for them are and what oil filters are the best? And any other tips will be much appreciated!

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Frodo 09-16-2013 03:25 AM

Regarding oil choices, do a SEARCH...there's VOLUMES of information, or maybe more accurately opinions on the subject.

Redmond Boxster 09-16-2013 03:41 AM

That really didn't give me any good information... Thanks for your very HELPFUL message

haz 09-16-2013 03:48 AM

Mine just got some Castrol Edge 0W40 which is Porsche approved and recommended by a Porsche indy specialist

Frodo 09-16-2013 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Redmond Boxster (Post 363426)
That really didn't give me any good information... Thanks for your very HELPFUL message

Hey, PLEASE don't start tossin' a lot of unwarranted sarcasm at me buddy. This subject's been covered a thousand times on this site. Don't be lazy---look it up! (For that matter, there's already a "Which oil to use" thread going right now. We need two of them??)

trimer 09-16-2013 04:48 AM

I just posted a "joke" thread on this to stir up the natives...that questions gets asked a lot on here.

My mechanic just did mine when he changed out my IMS bearing and put in Motul 8100 X-Cess 5W/40 Synthetic (Porsche approved list*). It is supposed to be high in ZDDP which is great for our cars. Not sure how much it costs (it was part of my total bill, but did discuss a normal oil change with him is about $175 with labor and filters and oil) but our cars get like 9 quarts of oil so remember that....

recycledsixtie 09-16-2013 05:24 AM

I stick to what the previous owner used - namely Mobil 1 Synthetic oil. I think it is 0w40. I use Hengst oil filters ordered from Pelican Parts. I don't like making changes from OEM but I do my own oil changes and save big $$$. Yes if you don't have it would suggest you get Wayne's 101 Projects for the Boxster at Pelican Parts - $30.
Pays for itself in no time if you do just the basics like oil and filter changes...

Yes and welcome to the forum!:)

trimer 09-16-2013 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by recycledsixtie (Post 363437)
I stick to what the previous owner used - namely Mobil 1 Synthetic oil. I think it is 0w40. I use Hengst oil filters ordered from Pelican Parts. I don't like making changes from OEM but I do my own oil changes and save big $$$. Yes if you don't have it would suggest you get Wayne's 101 Projects for the Boxster at Pelican Parts - $30.
Pays for itself in no time if you do just the basics like oil and filter changes...

Yes and welcome to the forum!:)

If im not mistaken, on my first Box - this was the same oil I used when I did my own oil changes as well.

Mark_T 09-16-2013 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Redmond Boxster (Post 363426)
That really didn't give me any good information... Thanks for your very HELPFUL message


I gotta say I'm really getting sick of these noobs coming in here asking questions that have already been covered ten thousand fkn times because they are just too goddamn lazy to do a search and get their own info, and then copping an attitude when they aren't immediately handed everything they want on a platter. And then they wonder why they get flamed.

Trey T 09-16-2013 05:54 AM

I noticed porsche enthusiasts are the most sensitive when it comes to recommendation for maintenance or repair. Don't think too hard, guys!

Get 5w40 or 0w40 synthetic from any reputable brand. You don't have to use Mobile 1

haz 09-16-2013 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 363441)
You can start by taking a whole 1/2 hour out of your incredibly busy life and READ THE FKN MANUAL THAT CAME WITH YOUR CAR!!!

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But seriously, people need to be less lazy.

recycledsixtie 09-16-2013 06:07 AM

Shooting down new members is pretty sad. How do they know that they should have to search for the info and why should they go that route if they don't know that exists already?

trimer 09-16-2013 06:20 AM

here we go again.

thom4782 09-16-2013 06:22 AM

My 2 cents...it more important to change oil frequently - every 5K or year whichever comes first - than to use the "perfect" oil and filter.

trimer 09-16-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by haz (Post 363445)
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But seriously, people need to be less lazy.

Deleted my comments. were not appropriate after I re-red the thread and who posted what...

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Redmond Boxster (Post 363426)
That really didn't give me any good information... Thanks for your very HELPFUL message

I'm not being a jerk and this is a serious question, is this the first forum you are registered to? If it is I can understand not being familiar with doing common searches.
If its not your answer above should have been considered a bit more before hitting the send button.

Now that Boxsters and 996's have come down in price significantly, it seems of late that we are getting a ton of threads that duplicate information asked the week before.
When you do a search, this type of duplication ends up 'spamming' the search results with nearly identical threads. In order to combat this, many forums put limits on new members ability to post new threads instead they are only allowed to contribute to exisiting ones. Thus they are forced to either do a search or attempt to hi-jack another thread.

Mark_T 09-16-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by recycledsixtie (Post 363447)
Shooting down new members is pretty sad. How do they know that they should have to search for the info and why should they go that route if they don't know that exists already?

Ok, then what do you suppose they think the search button at the top of the page is for? A new link to Google perhaps?

I am all for helping out new folks, or anyone for that matter, with a valid question after doing a bit of looking about themselves, or at least checking to see if their question has been asked and answered before, and I have hundreds of posts on this forum doing exactly that. but I have no patience for these self-entitled semi-literate idiots that can't even be bothered to lift a finger to help themselves before posting their stupid question.

AKnowles 09-16-2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 363459)
I'm not being a jerk and this is a serious question, is this the first forum you are registered to? If it is I can understand not being familiar with doing common searches.
If its not your answer above should have been considered a bit more before hitting the send button.

I second this thought. In all honesty, I've been an Internet forum member since ... darn way too long ... and there are always new users to a forum - any forum - that repeat the same response pattern. Instead of looking at the stickies - if there are any with basic forum rules, etiquette, etc. - or using search will just post a message and expect instant gratification. Most don't even bother with a Google search either.

The only time this behavior is understandable is when the forum in question is the very first forum the user has ever used. After that - having had a basic response to use search or been flamed - they should know better.

But let's get real ... you know it, I know it, and most likely they know it too that their behavior is wrong but they are still going to do it. So if you want to stop the noob behavior there is only one way to do it. Just ignore their post and move on. Empty threads are a simple way to tell a user no one is interested or willing to respond to that particular question and maybe that will generate a user response to read a bit before their next post.

PS: Every forum I've ever been to related to any vehicle with an engine has an oil thread(s) and similar response pattern. :)

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 08:10 AM

^ actually flaming of "RTFM!!" and 'do a search!" is pretty tame on this forum.
Other Porsche forums go nuts when they see this sort of thing. This is without a doubt one of the more civil forums Porsche and non-Porsche. Some of the non-Porsche forums have some very colorful posters with hair-trigger tempers.

TeamOxford 09-16-2013 12:19 PM

How about stickies for "oil type" and "tire choices"?

There's already a sticky for local indies.

TO

thom4782 09-16-2013 12:40 PM

TO: Good suggestion +1

ccstud17 09-16-2013 02:15 PM

AK: I agree this is one of the worst forums in terms of repeat questions! BUT like P-lap said. we are also the best forum i have seen for not just badgering the new guy for the repeat (or 20-peat) question!
We have all asked a repeat question in our forum careers! so I think we need to focus more on how to fix the problem like TO said and sticky some of these repeats.

Or I was on a forum once that when your first signed up it played a video on how to use the search function!!! worked really well

AKnowles 09-16-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ccstud17 (Post 363533)
BUT like P-lap said. we are also the best forum i have seen for not just badgering the new guy for the repeat (or 20-peat) question!

I can't dispute that at all. Which is why I tried to post a "constructive" post. Honestly, there is no need to flame someone. Just don't reply. Don't read it if you don't want to. Although, I too understand why people - including myself - have posted a message and included the phrase - search is your friend - or similar comment.

I've also noticed that 90% of the people that post an oil thread - or similar noob question - also flame the person that posted the search response. In fact, I suspect there is a high correlation between people that post without any prior search for a common subject and their entitlement attitude. The "entitlement attitude" is very prevalent in Southern CA. Although, maybe it is more generational than location specific. Or ...

Redmond Boxster 09-16-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frodo (Post 363429)
Hey, PLEASE don't start tossin' a lot of unwarranted sarcasm at me buddy. This subject's been covered a thousand times on this site. Don't be lazy---look it up! (For that matter, there's already a "Which oil to use" thread going right now. We need two of them??)

All I was trying to do is get my question answered. Googles search engine offers too much information and i was wondering who can just drop me a few lines what the best options are. Why go out of your way on an online forum to try and cause and inconvenient stir? Pretty immature. Unlike the other guys who actually told me the awnser to my questions. Thank you so much guys! And I'm not new to the forum been a member for quite some time just never find the time to post on here and when I do it's only a few simple questions.
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Redmond Boxster 09-16-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by recycledsixtie (Post 363447)
Shooting down new members is pretty sad. How do they know that they should have to search for the info and why should they go that route if they don't know that exists already?

Thank you - someone understands where I'm coming from. All the guys that are swearing name calling etc seriously need to grow some

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Redmond Boxster (Post 363549)
Googles search engine offers too much information...

Okay, I guess this really is your first forum as member. The others weren't telling you to do a Google search. They were telling you to use the search function on THIS website. You will only get search results from members of THIS forum.

And as I stated before, which I guess you didn't bother to read, posting these kinds of questions about oil, umpteenth times, spams the search results for those who actually use the 986forum.com's search function.

What people dislike about your question is that it makes you look like someone who can't be bothered to do a simple 986forum.com search, and instead prefers to have people spoon feed him extremely common answers to extremely common questions.

That's how it looks from over here. Your latest answer above really doesn't do you any favors.

Redmond Boxster 09-16-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 363553)
Okay, I guess this really is your first forum as member. The others weren't telling you to do a Google search. They were telling you to use the search function on THIS website. You will only get search results from members of THIS forum.

And as I stated before, which I guess you didn't bother to read, posting these kinds of questions about oil, umpteenth times, spams the search results for those who actually use the 986forum.com's search function.

What people dislike about your question is that it makes you look like someone who can't be bothered to do a simple 986forum.com search, and instead prefers to have people spoon feed him extremely common answers to extremely common answers.
That's how it looks from over here. Your latest answer above really doesn't do you any favors.


You seriously have the time to write all of that out? Just for a few questions. Get a life man seriously

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycledsixtie (Post 363447)
Shooting down new members is pretty sad. How do they know that they should have to search for the info and why should they go that route if they don't know that exists already?

Usually when new members ask questions that aren't as common as the one the OP started here, there is no shooting down.

And anyone who has ever registered for a forum knows that forum searches are one of the main attractions of any good forum. You can search virtually any topic you can think of relating to the car and someone has started a thread on it.

Unless of course that forum newbie is like 17, this is his first car, the only phone he has ever owned is an iPhone and he doesn't know Steve McQueen from Steve Jobs.

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Redmond Boxster (Post 363555)
You seriously have the time to write all of that out? Just for a few questions. Get a life man seriously

I was once stupid too. Then I grew up. I also moved out of my folks house and paid for my Porsche with my own money. You have a lot to learn about many things but luckily you have a lot of time to do so.

Redmond Boxster 09-16-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 363559)
I was once stupid too. Then I grew up. I also moved out of my folks house and paid for my Porsche with my own money. You have a lot to learn about many things.


Haha I own my porsche with no repayments, I also own my own home, even though your comments are completely irrelevant. You are still stupid by sitting at home trying to cause also an irrelevant argument on a car forum? Pathetic mate seriously. Show your wife then she will laugh at you.

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redmond Boxster (Post 363560)
Haha I own my porsche with no repayments, I also own my own home, even though your comments are completely irrelevant. You are still stupid by sitting at home trying to cause also an irrelevant argument on a car forum? Pathetic mate seriously. Show your wife then she will laugh at you.

You still sound like a 17 year old... Actually that's an insult to the 17 year olds who have come onto this forum and actually know how to search it. They also refrain from insulting exisitng members. That's not our style here....mate.

Redmond Boxster 09-16-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 363561)
You still sound like a 17 year old... Actually that's an insult to the 17 year olds who have come onto this forum and actually know how to search it. They also refrain from insulting exisitng members. That's not our style here....mate.

I never once insulted you, and please don't speak on behalf of other members like "that's not our style" you made the claim that I still live at home etc etc i am just trying to get my question awnsered and people like you do not make it any easier. I have got some good responses on my post which is great and I will proceed to buying the bits I need. Once again, saying I'm a 17 year old bla bla is also completely irrelevant. Enjoy your life I will not respond to you again. Ps stay happy.

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redmond Boxster (Post 363562)
I will not respond to you again.

Is that a promise? I hope you keep it.

To recap,
1-you post a basic question that could have been easily answered with a basic search.
2-Your next post starts off with sarcasm directed to members who have previously provided many new members with good information.
3- You then started insulting people and telling them they need to get a life or to 'grow some'.

You should know that since I joined this forum 9 years ago, you sir are the first to score this obnoxious hat trick. And somehow I still think you don't comprehend a thing about the need to perform searches rather than spamming the search results. Newsflash mate, the good answers you got here... there are a TON of good answers just like those in the search database. The one you didn't bother with.

recycledsixtie 09-16-2013 04:33 PM

I just don't get it. Those that get snippy and impatient with newbies come across as arrogant. Totally unnecessary. We were all newbies once. Why escalate this nonsense. Move on . Sheesh....

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by recycledsixtie (Post 363565)
I just don't get it. Those that get snippy and impatient with newbies come across as arrogant. Totally unnecessary. We were all newbies once. Why escalate this nonsense. Move on . Sheesh....

I see you left out his insults to the other members...

When I was newbie, I didn't direct sarcasm and insults towards existing members.

Also, it's going on well over 10 years since these types of forums have been around. Being a newbie to one particular forum doesn't mean you don't understand the basic search functionality that appears at the top header of this and every other forum running these templated layouts. Sorry RS, the newbie excuse doesn't wash this time. This guy is just lazy and entitled.

Perfectlap 09-16-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKnowles (Post 363540)

I've also noticed that 90% of the people that post an oil thread - or similar noob question - also flame the person that posted the search response. In fact, I suspect there is a high correlation between people that post without any prior search for a common subject and their entitlement attitude.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frodo (Post 363429)
This subject's been covered a thousand times on this site. Don't be lazy---look it up! (For that matter, there's already a "Which oil to use" thread going right now. We need two of them??)

http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/b...1452604115.jpg

Mark_T 09-16-2013 05:51 PM

So, just to change the direction slightly, maybe we should have a search button that's about the size of that advertising banner up there, with an arrow pointing to it that says "Click me, yes, this means you!"

And to put things back where I found them, I'm totally with Perfectlap on this, and I'll bet the guy STILL hasn't done a search.

PorscheBound 09-16-2013 06:23 PM

Coming in from left field here. I understand the argument for the use of the search feature. What I will never understand are the people that get annoyed at the fact that the same questions are posted. The argument becomes that it floods the search results. There is no such thing as too much information when it comes to cars. What ruins the search results is when people see an oil thread that is now pushing 3 pages thinking they just found the gold mine of information on their topic only to find that it's about people complaining about repeated posts. How difficult is it to just skip reading a thread that has been posted a million times? It actually takes less time to not read a thread then it does to use the search function. People posting the same questions over and over again on a forum will never end. Perfect lap, for someone who has been a member for 9 years, you of all people should know this will never change. So for someone complaining about ruined search results, you are part of then ruined result. If this thread had zero replies no-one would have clicked this thread when searching for oil questions. Now all people searching for an oil thread will click this thread only to be very disappointed.

rp17 09-16-2013 07:40 PM

Saw this post previously and shaked my head. Saw it again today with multiple replies and thought......Yep bar room fight. Sorry couldn't resist while lmao.

OP starting a oil thread is the quickest way to uh, meet new people. Not my rule but it is what it is. Oil threads always leave me more confused after reading anyway. 5w 40 Castrol. Change every 5k miles or every year.

I say the newbies should be the one to respond to the repeat post.

particlewave 09-16-2013 07:50 PM

Wow.

To the OP: your first response to a clearly well established member was a bit negative. I think that we can all benefit from a little civility here. Yes, I get very tired of seeing the same questions posted over and over and over. However, I think no response would be better than a negative one.

That being said, I've never commented on one of the oil threads, so I'll do so here. My car has full service records and has always been filled with Mobil 1 10W-40, so that's what I use(Hengst filter from Pelican).

The problem with the oil threads is that everyone has an opinion, and all opinions seem to differ. Do the reading and go with your gut ;)


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