OH NO!! Metal shavings in oil filter :(| - Page 4 - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

madmods · 08-26-2013, 06:01 AM

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madmods · 08-26-2013, 07:01 AM

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haz · 08-26-2013, 07:52 AM

Madmods, you make me laugh. I like that

AKnowles · 08-26-2013, 08:28 AM

Haz, first of all, my sympathies. Have you pulled the oil filter, or had a mechanic do it, as Jake suggested and checked the filter intake to see if any metal particles are present? If any are and they are ferrous then you know metal has been introduced to the engine internals via the bypass port. In which case the only way to determine the extent of the damage is a complete engine teardown.

Checking the engine this way will be the least expensive way to do a prediagnosis of the engine state and might help you defray the cost of a replacement (i.e. used) engine. I put it this way as what is in the sump is less important than what has gone through the bypass port and been introduced to the engine internals.

madmods · 08-26-2013, 09:24 AM

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jb92563 · 08-26-2013, 11:23 AM

This catch by the filter does bring up another point for all boxster owners.

The stock filter in the 986 has a "Bypass" that allows some oil through without going past the filter element.

I wonder if we should all be installing the Spin-on-filter adapter to have ALL the oil go through the filter to prevent all the bad stuff from passing through the oil channels that feed the bearings and other parts directly and potentially even clogging and restricting the oil feeds.

Makes me want to order one immediately.
Spin On Oil Filter Adapter for Porsche 911, Boxster, Cayenne S/Turbo, and Cayman models

I wonder if Jake can comment on the adapter and whether its a good idea or if there are any issues with doing that?

madmods · 08-26-2013, 12:10 PM

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RawleyD · 08-26-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by madmods

He did mention however that it would be different if it would be a Turbo or any other Porsche that keeps value. But not a "986 Boxster" as he was laughing.

And I say you are full of sh**.

OP I think you should not worry, keep the oil changed every 3k, and drive the piss out of it. It could be a VERY long time until the engine gives out, IF ever.

kls · 08-26-2013, 07:33 PM

I'm not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV, but if I drove that car for a few hundred miles with no problems I'd change the oil again to check the filter and make sure I had flushed as much gunk out as possible. Also, I'd use a magnetic drain plug.

madmods · 08-26-2013, 11:16 PM

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haz · 08-26-2013, 11:18 PM

Again guys, calm your tits, we're too old to arguing over the internet. It's like paralympics, even if you win, you're still a retard. Mkay?

kjc2050 · 08-27-2013, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by haz

It's like paralymoics, even if you win, you're still a retard.

Irony, anyone?

rp17 · 08-26-2013, 01:09 PM

Haz
Hoping for the best possible outcome for you. Rp

madmods · 08-26-2013, 11:32 PM

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runjmc2 · 08-27-2013, 02:07 PM

My solution...."for sale .....Boxster...looks great....runs strong....oil just changed..."

haz · 08-27-2013, 08:50 PM

Can't. Because karma.

madmods · 08-27-2013, 09:24 PM

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haz · 08-27-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by madmods

Hope this didn't mean you are sitting at home now with a VOODOO puppet cursing the one who sold it to you at first place wouldn't you?

He he.. no. I called the seller and just had a normal chat about what had happened. He was, obviously very sorry, and pointed out the PPI (which does not hade a checked point for "oil filter OK / NOT OK")
I did point out that he safely could have done an oilchange within the last 27 months (last time was may 2011, and then I did one last friday - 27 months in between). He agreed..

Had he done an earlier oilchange, he might have noticed the metal particles in the oilfilter alot sooner and in that wa prevented a lot of damage.

The Boxster is being flatbedded in two hours to SSP 1 hour away. I have been promised a diagnostic on the engine before friday afternoon.

southernstar · 08-28-2013, 04:21 AM

Good luck and keep us posted.

Perfectlap · 08-28-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by haz

He he.. no. I called the seller and just had a normal chat about what had happened. He was, obviously very sorry, and pointed out the PPI (which does not hade a checked point for "oil filter OK / NOT OK")
I did point out that he safely could have done an oilchange within the last 27 months (last time was may 2011, and then I did one last friday - 27 months in between). He agreed..

Had he done an earlier oilchange, he might have noticed the metal particles in the oilfilter alot sooner and in that wa prevented a lot of damage.

The Boxster is being flatbedded in two hours to SSP 1 hour away. I have been promised a diagnostic on the engine before friday afternoon.

Actually I think the person doing your inspection was the problem. The experts can correct me if I'm wrong but a trained mechanic, looking at service records that would obviously have pointed to inadequate oil changes, or inadequate records to raise suspicion, should have or would have looked at the oil pan and not just the oil filter. The filter and oil can easily be replaced to cover up evidence of neglect but cleaning out the pan is really going out of your way to deceive. Either way the previous owner appears to have done neither of these sneaky things, so he basically left it up to your inspectors to catch his neglect which would have been a piece of blotkaker for them.