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Old 07-01-2013, 09:56 AM   #1
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It was you that first mentioned the 550 . Then complains when somebody posts a picture of one ...

It was you that talked of the porsche racing success decades prior to the 911 design . Then backtracks when proved wrong ...

It is you that seems to have 911 envy ...

The very reason these types have thread keep me amused over the years

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Old 07-01-2013, 10:08 AM   #2
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It was you that first mentioned the 550 .
It was you that talked of the porsche racing success prior to the 911 design .
It is you that seems to have 911 envy ...
correct, and mentioning the 550 is very relevant in addressing the OP's point that he felt that the Boxster was a 'girl's car'. As the Boxster is the closest to the 550 Spyder -- a car NO ONE would qualify as a chick car. Certainly not those willing to pay upwards of a million dollars. The only people who seem to feel that the Boxster is inferior are people who simply discount the history of the car within the brand and spend too much time buying into the years-in-the-making clever upselling strategies by Porsche's marketing people. Strategies that would only have been possible if the Boxster and Cayman were inexplicably denied engines that their platforms were more than capable of handling. Bizarre....

All of these point points were relevant to the OP's post. So I'm confused as to why would say I brought it up, as if to infer irrelevance.

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I have Ferrari envy. So you got it half right. You can always buy an old Carrera for less than a Cayman S and not get too freaked out about repairs. Can't say that about those beautiful sounding/looking Ferraris.

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for the record, are you disagreeing with FatMike, that the Carrera has not morphed into a GT? By posting the antique vs. modern Porsche picture you seem to be at odds with that sentiment. Are you back pedaling?
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Yeah that has always been the beauty and selling point of the 911 .
Reliability AND track ability .

One of the reasons the 924 cgt and 914s where deliberately held back .
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As I said earlier , I was having a beer with mike and my comments where not aimed at anyone in particular , but rather the way these threads always seem to go ...

I know exactly how these cars have morphed , this is not my first rodeo ....
I have a 56 bug , 73 911 , 93 c2 , and an 09 c4s .... The boxster in my work parking lot again today

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In fact , I have boxster envy
A new S with pdk is my current dream car at the top of my "list"
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:20 AM   #6
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Yeah that has always been the beauty and selling point of the 911 .
Reliability AND track ability .
Actually 99% of the water-cooled Carreras overheat on the track just like all the non-flagship Porsches today. Which is why the GT3 have sold so well amongst the track crowds and why the cars will hold value. Those engines don't just look the part.
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Actually 99% of the water-cooled Carreras overheat on the track just like all the non-flagship Porsches today. Which is why the GT3 have sold so well amongst the track crowds and why the cars will hold value. Those engines don't just look the part.
Any facts to back this up ?
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Any facts to back this up ?
Look at any Interseries Cayman, or the BGB Cayman that won the Rolex 24 with a 997 engine. It goes well into the six figures to make a Porsche 997/987/991/981 engine (aka non-GT3) capable of withstanding long track stints. Or alternatively, just connect a reader to the temperature sensors via ECU CAN bus during a punishing day at Sebring..and then compare to the GT3. One of these engines has clearly not been engineered for track duty. And its not just the engine, its also the transmission, brakes, possibly power steering pump...

Porsche doesn't equip car in a way where 90+% of its street drivers will never use it.
That's just an unnecessary vaporizing of ready made profits.
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It cost about a thousand bucks to buy a gt3 radiator set up , plus the bumper .

The normal 997 third radiator can be done for around 400 .
Should the other 99% overheat on the track on a real hot day .

However , I think you misunderstood when I mentioned the streetcars track ability as a selling point ...

This is a very interesting conversation .....

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