986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners (http://986forum.com/forums/)
-   Boxster General Discussions (http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/)
-   -   Spoiler Control Indicator Switch (http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/43107-spoiler-control-indicator-switch.html)

Chuck W. 02-09-2013 04:33 PM

Spoiler Control Indicator Switch
 
I purchased this from a Germany eBay seller for $90 shipped. It is pretty cool. You can manually operate the spoiler from the switch which installs on the dash and matches the other switches there. When the spoiler is down, the light is unlit. As it raises or lowers it blinks and when it is fully raised the red light stays lit.

This may seem unnecessary, but in Los Angeles you can go from under 55 MPH to over 75 MPH numerous times during a commute. With this I can easily manually raise it and when I am parking I am reminded to lower it due to the red light.

Spoiler Control Indicator Switch Porsche Carrera Turbo 4S Boxster s 986 996 | eBay

http://saved.im/mtgxmjgyodl0/neu22.gif

BoxsterSteve 02-09-2013 04:42 PM

That's a neat little toy, and apparently really easy to hook up.
It's on my things-I-want-when-I-have-money-left-after-fixing-all-the-broken-stuff-list.

mountainman 02-10-2013 04:21 AM

Chuck. I also thought that was a very nice upgrade and ordered two for the 986 and the 996 since you can not see the spoiler on either of them from inside. They came with very detailed instructions, but when I tried to install the one in the boxster I could not get the wires to make contact in the dash connectors. The little blades on the wires that slide down beside the existing wires don't seem long enough to get in far enough to make contact. I made several emails to the seller in germany and he seemed to try to be helpful, but basicly just told me to do what was already indicated in the printed instructions, which already was not working.
Did you have any problems getting yours to make contact and do you have any tips. After several tries and no success on the boxster I just gave up and have not tried the 996 yet. I suppose I could splice into the appropriate wires back behind the dash connectors, but I really do not want to do that. It just appears to me that the small flat blades on the wire ends are about 1/4 inch too short to make contact.

Chuck W. 02-10-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainman (Post 326940)
Did you have any problems getting yours to make contact and do you have any tips. After several tries and no success on the boxster I just gave up and have not tried the 996 yet. I suppose I could splice into the appropriate wires back behind the dash connectors, but I really do not want to do that. It just appears to me that the small flat blades on the wire ends are about 1/4 inch too short to make contact.

Even though the install is straight forward, it was challenging. I had no success my first attempt and tried to tap into the wires as they left the connector, but for some reason this did not work either. By the time I was done with my first attempts I had broken off two of the tips from the wires. I sent the unit back to Germany and the seller sent me a new one. This time I took my time and straighten out all of the wires in the connector (they make a 90 degree turn as they come out of the connector). I installed the green wires first as they are the most difficult. The other three are pretty easy. They simply slide in on the outside portion of the connector.

I think the key is the straighten out of the wires so you can see what your doing and taking your time.

mountainman 02-10-2013 08:28 AM

sounds like it was almost as frustrating for you as it was for me. I will try it again some day when I have more patience and feel up to the challenge.

kjc2050 04-19-2014 01:00 PM

Earlier today I installed the version that simply functions as an indicator. The green wire is certainly the hardest of the lot because the two wires on it are a heavier gauge. I understand why they used a beefier gauge wire, but it made things more difficult. The other wires installed easily. Chuck's tip is a good one.

heliguy 04-20-2014 04:17 PM

I installed mine last week as per the instructions and it was a simple install. It works great.

jaykay 05-01-2014 04:40 PM

Having some mysterious alignment trouble with my spoiler...this switch would help! I actuate it up manually but it retracts on its own somehow..

Allen 05-02-2014 02:19 PM

I installed the spoiler switch in my 2004 eight years ago. As you see in the photo below, my switch doesn't have an indicator light, just an icon on one side of the button showing the spoiler raised, and one on the other side showing it lowered. Works like a charm and was very easy to install.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0938.jpg

heliguy 05-02-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen (Post 398559)
I installed the spoiler switch in my 2004 eight years ago. As you see in the photo below, my switch doesn't have an indicator light, just an icon on one side of the button showing the spoiler raised, and one on the other side showing it lowered. Works like a charm and was very easy to install.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0938.jpg

You have no indication if it is up or down?

Allen 05-02-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heliguy (Post 398562)
You have no indication if it is up or down?

Nope, which is why I had my wife drive behind me one day to verify that the spoiler does, in fact, raise on its own when I reach a certain speed. I have used the switch to raise the spoiler manually, but if I am going too slowly it eventually lowers on its own.

Mostly I just use the switch to raise the spoiler when I am cleaning the car.

jim_hoyland 12-12-2014 06:05 PM

I just ordered that switch; I'm not sure what green wire the previous posts are referring to...

kjc2050 12-12-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_hoyland (Post 428098)
I just ordered that switch; I'm not sure what green wire the previous posts are referring to...

It's part of the supplied harness. You'll understand when you do the installation.

BIGJake111 12-13-2014 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 398470)
Having some mysterious alignment trouble with my spoiler...this switch would help! I actuate it up manually but it retracts on its own somehow..


I raise mine manually on occasion, sometimes it's still up when I finish my drive, and sometimes it has lowered on its own. I think it has something to do with the speed of the drive but I am not sure what. Maybe if you surpass 75 on the drive it will then lower at 55.

rick3000 12-13-2014 01:26 PM

It goes up at 75mph, and goes down at 50mph. I installed the a dash switch, but rarely use it. It's mostly for showing off, or if I have someone following me. It's hard to miss the giant red, 'PORSCHE,' logo on my spoiler.

Also, a note on the install, the little wires you insert into the instrument cluster plug are very fragile, be careful not to bend one.

jim_hoyland 12-13-2014 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick3000 (Post 428193)
It goes up at 75mph, and goes down at 50mph. I installed the a dash switch, but rarely use it. It's mostly for showing off, or if I have someone following me. It's hard to miss the giant red, 'PORSCHE,' logo on my spoiler.

Also, a note on the install, the little wires you insert into the instrument cluster plug are very fragile, be careful not to bend one.

It'so not wired directly to the footwell switch ? Curious

rick3000 12-13-2014 03:09 PM

The spoiler indicator is wired to the instrument cluster, the spoiler switch is wired to the footwell switch. The indicator is just a light that turns on when the spoiler is up, the switch actually controls raising/lowering the spoiler.

jim_hoyland 12-13-2014 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick3000 (Post 428206)
The spoiler indicator is wired to the instrument cluster, the spoiler switch is wired to the footwell switch. The indicator is just a light that turns on when the spoiler is up, the switch actually controls raising/lowering the spoiler.

Thanks; I get it now :)

Guvs 12-14-2014 02:07 AM

Hi All.
Been reading this thread with interest I also have installed the German soured indicator switch i.e., when it’s going up it flashes the Red light and stays on permanently while it’s up, but then flashes when it is on it’s way down, then it stays off, just to clear up what I think might confuse people this is not a rocker switch that “Allen” has installed; that switch is off a 996 turbo and dose work as a rocker switch, I have installed both a few years ago, they work fine and yes the indicator light switch is a fiddle job but doable with minor mechanical/electrical knowledge.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...pse6c34406.jpg

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps881a8c05.jpg

With the rocker switch you can put the spoiler up at any time, but when you do this manually it will stay up until you manually put it down using the rocker switch, it will not come down at 50 MPH automatically, however you can retract the spoiler with the switch at 60 MPH for some reason you don’t have to wait for your speed to drop to 50, well mine dose anyway.
Just for those of you wondering the bottom switch is for my DRL.
Guvs.

jim_hoyland 12-14-2014 04:44 AM

DRL ? What is DRL...:confused:

kjc2050 12-14-2014 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_hoyland (Post 428260)
DRL ? What is DRL...:confused:

Daytime Running Lights.

jim_hoyland 12-14-2014 09:58 AM

Got a question:does the Spoiler Indicator Loght/switch both act as an up/down spoiler switch and an indicator light ?

Do I still need to install a separate spoiler switch into the dash console ?

KRAM36 12-14-2014 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_hoyland (Post 428295)
Got a question:does the Spoiler Indicator Loght/switch both act as an up/down spoiler switch and an indicator light ?

Do I still need to install a separate spoiler switch into the dash console ?

Depends on which switch you buy. The cheaper switch just lights up to indicate the movement of the spoiler. The more expensive switch lights up to indicate the movement of the spoiler and you can use the switch to raise and lower the spoiler.

My Boxster has a switch at the fuse panel cover from factory that will allow you to manually raise and lower the spoiler. You could use that switch and just buy the cheap switch that only indicates the movement of the spoiler.

Cheaper switch that only indicates the movement of the spoiler.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPOILER-CONTROL-INDICATOR-Porsche-Boxster-S-986-996-TOP-/261669778881?hash=item3cecbbf5c1&vxp=mtr

More expensive switch lights up to indicate the movement of the spoiler and you can use the switch to raise and lower the spoiler.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spoiler-control-indicator-switch-Porsche-Carrera-turbo-4S-Boxster-S-986-996-/261698591779?hash=item3cee739c23&vxp=mtr


.

jim_hoyland 12-14-2014 12:14 PM

Thanks. I did get the more expensive switch/combo. That's what I wanted.

jim_hoyland 12-31-2014 08:26 AM

I received the switch and instruction yesterday. I have two questions:
1) are the original wires that go to the fuse panel switch left unconnected ?

2) remembering the previous posts discussing the green wire, I want to know what to NOT do. The green wire has two pins; each hoes to a different slot in the connector. This seemed to be a problem area, please chime in and advise.

Otherwise, nice product, good instruction, and shipped fast; albeit came from Europe.

jim_hoyland 11-26-2015 03:41 PM

Problems...
 
I finally got around to installing the switch; there is a problem. Spoiler goes up and down correctly. The light in the switch stays on when the spoiler is up.

But; the switch light does not flash as the spoiler raises, but does flash when the turn signals are used.

Can anyone pinpoint the problem ?

jaykay 11-26-2015 05:21 PM

Have one too....still have to install it. I had assumed that it would work correctly

Xpit77 11-27-2015 03:48 AM

Where did you buy them ?

Chuck W. 11-27-2015 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_hoyland (Post 474768)
I finally got around to installing the switch; there is a problem. Spoiler goes up and down correctly. The light in the switch stays on when the spoiler is up.

But; the switch light does not flash as the spoiler raises, but does flash when the turn signals are used.

Can anyone pinpoint the problem ?

When I first installed mine, all of the lights flashed correctly while raising and lowering and stayed solid while it was up. However, when I installed the 996 cluster I lost the flashing while raising and lowering. It stays on solid while it is up and can still operate the spoiler manually. Based on what a PIA the wires are to deal with I have left it as is. The flashing lights were not that big of a deal. Having the solid light on is more important to me.

You do have an issue if the blinkers are causing the indicator to flash. I would betting a wire is plugged into the wrong slot of the plug.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xpit77 (Post 474787)
Where did you buy them ?

Spoiler Control Indicator Switch Porsche Carrera Turbo 4S Boxster s 986 996 | eBay

jim_hoyland 11-27-2015 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 474774)
Have one too....still have to install it. I had assumed that it would work correctly

Probably will be OK. Would you help me out when you do the installation ? After inserting the wires into the gauge cluster blocks, raise or lower the the spoiler and determine which wire transmits the flashing. Then I'll know which one of mine is in the wrong slot.

jaykay 11-27-2015 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_hoyland (Post 474793)
Probably will be OK. Would you help me out when you do the installation ? After inserting the wires into the gauge cluster blocks, raise or lower the the spoiler and determine which wire transmits the flashing. Then I'll know which one of mine is in the wrong slot.

It will be a while before I can get to it.....spring as the car is all stored up. Not sure you would want to wait that long! It sounds like a real pain and am dreading it! Are the instructions wrong such that you cannot determine the right terminals?

The dude sent me an old crusty switch...which I have been trying to get replaced...no luck so far. I believe it is a just defroster switch with a sticker on it

jim_hoyland 11-28-2015 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 474847)
It will be a while before I can get to it.....spring as the car is all stored up. Not sure you would want to wait that long! It sounds like a real pain and am dreading it! Are the instructions wrong such that you cannot determine the right terminals?

The dude sent me an old crusty switch...which I have been trying to get replaced...no luck so far. I believe it is a just defroster switch with a sticker on it

I read over the instruction several times, but ended up having my mechanic do the installation. It works fine; one of the wires got into the wrong slot and I believe it is the green wire.

Note:The two pins on the green wire are a real PITA; he installed two other connecting pins to replace them. I'll get the part name/number from him next week.

Doesn't matter at this point when I fix the flashing; just want someone who' scoring the install or working in that area to verify which wire/slot is hot when the spoiler is in operation. That would be the wir/slot I have wrong.

jaykay 11-28-2015 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_hoyland (Post 474885)
I read over the instruction several times, but ended up having my mechanic do the installation. It works fine; one of the wires got into the wrong slot and I believe it is the green wire.

Note:The two pins on the green wire are a real PITA; he installed two other connecting pins to replace them. I'll get the part name/number from him next week.

Doesn't matter at this point when I fix the flashing; just want someone who' scoring the install or working in that area to verify which wire/slot is hot when the spoiler is in operation. That would be the wir/slot I have wrong.

Okay, yes some more robust pins on those wires would be good.... so much appreciated. They look like they will break or bend on the first try

epapp 11-28-2015 03:21 PM

Does anyone have a picture of the pin to use on the back of the instrument cluster?

jim_hoyland 11-30-2015 04:41 AM

Update of sorts...
 
OK; I've used this several times now and found that it flashes when going up ( can't detect any flashing when retracting). Still flashes when turn signal used. Not sure the footwell switch is working, gotta test it more. I'll stop by the shop today and find out the part # for the grenn wire pin replacements.

jaykay 12-18-2018 02:51 PM

I have just installed this now on a 2000S.....It was bit dim as far as lighting goes here in the north but got it in there. Unfortunately, I have no indication when I actuate the spoiler ....even with the original switch. This the test during first phase of the installation.

I went over instructions in English and in French on the internet and still no joy.

Some notes:
-some the pin connectors are fairly loose fitting going into the cluster harness terminal blocks.
-there were two brown blue wires in one cluster plug so I just picked one.
-some of the wires had similar colour under LED lighting...but I think I got It right
-the green wire with double prongs appear to go as far as it could in the appropriate terminal block but the prongs are quite long don't look like they can go all the way in. I have exposed prongs.....on a 97-01 type terminal block.

Did any experience this on install? If so what wiring strategy fixed it?

My next step is to test with another switch if I can...

If any need pictures of these components exposed please let me know....while I have everything apart; before I head out west again!

P.S. did I mention that I hate electrical wiring work!

rick3000 12-18-2018 04:03 PM

Mine shows when the spoiler is deployed (solid light) and when it is going down (flashing), it does not flash when the spoiler is deployed. This is because I broke the pin that you insert into the cluster plug, which I am pretty sure is actually the end of a diode. I just accepted it and moved on, but if it bothers you, I would make sure the pins are all inserted well.

he switch has nothing to do with the indicator light, the switch only controls the actually spoiler deployment/retraction, and the switch is not even used when the spoiler deploys automatically.

jaykay 12-18-2018 04:11 PM

....oh I am not getting any indication at all with the car stationary

rick3000 12-18-2018 04:28 PM

I thought you only had an issue with the light when the spoiler went up. The indicator should work when stationary.

I would check to make sure the pins are inserted in the correct slots, you could also try reaching out to the ebay seller, I have communicated with him before and he seemed helpful.

jaykay 12-19-2018 02:53 PM

I was able to pull everything apart and do some testing with a 9 V battery. It seems that the double pronged green wire is the culprit....or a component imbedded under the heat shrink. I have attached some pictures in case they might help another

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1545263424.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1545263451.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1545263485.jpg


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1545263510.jpg


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:12 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website