Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-20-2012, 06:02 AM   #1
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
IMS Retrofit Procedure "How To" Video

Bentley Publishers did a very good job of producing this how to video on IMS Retrofit procedures using the LN Engineering retrofit kit.

The procedure is what we developed with LN Engineering in 2008 with several evolutions of tools and accessories to make the job easier. This will help greatly to reduce the amount of forum posts and questions that pop up on this topic and will also reduce the chances of critical mistakes being made.

I was in the middle of producing our own video but this one is much better than what we could have done. Big Kudos to Bentley for making it available on youtube for free and saving us the hassles of having to finish ours! :-)

__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 06:25 AM   #2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: It's a kind of magic.....
Posts: 6,458
Great video; and something that has been sorely missing, thanks for sharing Jake.
__________________
Anything really new is invented only in one’s youth. Later, one becomes more experienced, more famous – and more stupid.” - Albert Einstein
JFP in PA is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 06:29 AM   #3
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
I agree... Charles and I started on a video two years ago, but the kit kept evolving and superseding the prior versions.

We still might finish ours as it gives more detail and is an hour+ in length.. But for now, we'll see how this one assists in helping folks.
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 06:54 AM   #4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: It's a kind of magic.....
Posts: 6,458
This one at least shows all the essential steps that must be taken, but some tend to try to short cut and then find themselves in all kinds of trouble......
__________________
Anything really new is invented only in one’s youth. Later, one becomes more experienced, more famous – and more stupid.” - Albert Einstein
JFP in PA is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:06 AM   #5
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFP in PA View Post
This one at least shows all the essential steps that must be taken, but some tend to try to short cut and then find themselves in all kinds of trouble......
Or be like the Tech that was in my class last weekend in Boston. He has been leaving all the tensioners installed in the engine during the procedure. He didn't like it when I pointed him out in class after his boasting and said "Did all of you hear that? This person has been carrying an improper retrofit procedure".

Last week we had a car come in that lost a connecting rod. It had been retrofitted and the Tech that did the procedure left the center nut finger tight. I literally removed it with my fingers, no tools required. I videoed it and will post it soon.
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:10 AM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MA
Posts: 882
You were doing a class in Boston last weekend? Wish I had known.

Are you scheduled to do another one up here?
__________________
98 Arena Red 986

Last edited by Stroked & Blown; 07-20-2012 at 08:21 AM.
Stroked & Blown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:30 AM   #7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: It's a kind of magic.....
Posts: 6,458
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby View Post
Or be like the Tech that was in my class last weekend in Boston. He has been leaving all the tensioners installed in the engine during the procedure. He didn't like it when I pointed him out in class after his boasting and said "Did all of you hear that? This person has been carrying an improper retrofit procedure".

Last week we had a car come in that lost a connecting rod. It had been retrofitted and the Tech that did the procedure left the center nut finger tight. I literally removed it with my fingers, no tools required. I videoed it and will post it soon.
Kind of makes you wonder how they would do stripping down and reassembling a weapon……………
__________________
Anything really new is invented only in one’s youth. Later, one becomes more experienced, more famous – and more stupid.” - Albert Einstein
JFP in PA is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:31 AM   #8
Registered User
 
Johnny Danger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 4,810
Garage
I'd like to know who and where in the Boston area you're referring to as well ?
__________________
Don't worry … I've got the microfilm.
Johnny Danger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 08:09 AM   #9
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
The next M96 Complete Engine Class through WTI is in Gaithersburg Maryland, after that we are on to Canada for a couple of classes.

We teach Technician level classes for Worldpac through the WTI program as a two day over view of the M96 engine. Once per year I have my four day M96 Engine Rebuild School here at Flat 6 where we tear down and then completely reconstruct an M96 engine hands on. The engine is the real deal and used as part of our R&D program, it isn't some dummy engine that will never run.

Details of both classes are here
Engine Rebuild School The December class is already at more than 1/2 capacity and is still months away.

As far as the Tech's name I'll never release it and I don't know where he is from, all I do know if he traveled to Boston for the class and was pretty proud to have been carrying out the wrong procedure over and over again. He was a really nice guy, but didn't like to be told he was wrong. I started to ask him if he'd rather be the instructor.
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 08:21 AM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Miami florida
Posts: 1,591
Mmmm. IMS porn video. Very nice.
__________________
Current car

2000 Boxster 2.7l red/black

Previous cars

1973 Opel Manta
1969(?) Fiat 850 Convertible
1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
san rensho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 08:22 AM   #11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MA
Posts: 882
Thanks for the PM, Jake.
Glad to hear it wasn't the guy that did my IMS.
__________________
98 Arena Red 986
Stroked & Blown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 08:30 AM   #12
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stroked & Blown View Post
Thanks for the PM, Jake.
Glad to hear it wasn't the guy that did my IMS.
Just to clarify, I didn't tell him who it was, I told him who it was not when asked a direct question. Please no more PMs on the topic.
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 09:51 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Perfectlap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,709
actually I wish Bentley had a video series for all basic Boxster maintenance and common repairs. It might encourage more people to take the risk of buying these cars.
__________________
GT3 Recaro Seats - Boxster Red
GT3 Aero / Carrera 18" 5 spoke / Potenza RE-11
Fabspeed Headers & Noise Maker
BORN: March 2000 - FINLAND
IMS#1 REPLACED: April 2010 - NEW JERSEY -- LNE DUAL ROW
Perfectlap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 11:03 AM   #14
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap View Post
actually I wish Bentley had a video series for all basic Boxster maintenance and common repairs. It might encourage more people to take the risk of buying these cars.
A series like this is being produced, but not by Bentley.
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 06:46 PM   #15
Theoretical propagandist
 
Eric G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 793
Garage
Jake, have you ever considered doing a left coast M96 class? I would be more then willing to pay the cost of the class but distance is a killer to where you are. With that said, how close do you come to Washington State?
__________________
When life throws you curves, aim for the apex...
Eric G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #16
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric G View Post
Jake, have you ever considered doing a left coast M96 class? I would be more then willing to pay the cost of the class but distance is a killer to where you are. With that said, how close do you come to Washington State?
The WTI classes are on the west coast and all over the country and I travel to those... BUT they are not enthusiast level and not hands on.

To get a hands on, 4 day education on the M96 you have to enter our world and travel to Flat 6 where you'll teardown and reassemble a complete M96 fully upgraded engine. It would be impossible to do this outside of our learning center.
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:58 PM   #17
Theoretical propagandist
 
Eric G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 793
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby View Post
The WTI classes are on the west coast and all over the country and I travel to those... BUT they are not enthusiast level and not hands on.

To get a hands on, 4 day education on the M96 you have to enter our world and travel to Flat 6 where you'll teardown and reassemble a complete M96 fully upgraded engine. It would be impossible to do this outside of our learning center.
That is what I was afraid of...well I am about 6000.00 into parts from Wayne right now as the last box of parts got here today...and just getting started into the project. It does not crack the engine yet and for that portion, I will make my way to your side of the country before I delve into that portion. Thank you for the response!
__________________
When life throws you curves, aim for the apex...
Eric G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 08:26 PM   #18
Registered User
 
Jager's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: California
Posts: 1,859
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric G View Post
That is what I was afraid of...well I am about 6000.00 into parts from Wayne right now as the last box of parts got here today...and just getting started into the project. It does not crack the engine yet and for that portion, I will make my way to your side of the country before I delve into that portion. Thank you for the response!
$6000 into parts and just getting started?? Heck, Jake will do the complete rebuild for you for just a few more dollars.
__________________
Jäger

300K Mile Club
Jager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 08:43 PM   #19
Engine Surgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jager View Post
$6000 into parts and just getting started?? Heck, Jake will do the complete rebuild for you for just a few more dollars.
Not really... My reconstructed engines start at 18K :-)

They haven't went up in price since 2008, though..
__________________
Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Jake Raby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2012, 02:30 AM   #20
Theoretical propagandist
 
Eric G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 793
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jager View Post
$6000 into parts and just getting started?? Heck, Jake will do the complete rebuild for you for just a few more dollars.
Actually it closer to $8000 when you throw in the new floor lift. On parts it is a total suspension replacement, full clutch replacement to other major components. It grew from a blown shock and me wanting to replace the IMS to... while I'm in there I might as well replace... But hey, I'm not selling this car and it a fun project.

__________________
When life throws you curves, aim for the apex...

Last edited by Eric G; 07-21-2012 at 02:39 AM.
Eric G is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page