IMS Failure - Need Advice

[Eric G]

...keeping secrets is what keeps businesses going. If every business shared everything " on their how to process" they wouldn't be in existence very long. Look what happened to Kellogg and why they had to shut down their plant tours...people where stealing industry secrets.

In the age of digital communications and the instant satisfaction of "I want what I want and I want it now" mentality", forum like this unfortunately have become a battle ground when companies "create a solution to a plaguing problem.

There use to be a time when people had to think through problems and figure out solutions...now most just click a mouse and "Poof" your answer is in front of you. Jake has spent considerable time and energy developing a solution...and he did NOT do it by clicking on a mouse and asking someone to give him the answer. In developing this solution Jake has created a business, and that business has workers who have families and are supported by this process. Should he just fire his staff, close his doors and give his technology away? Short answer...No.

It is websites like this and the sponsors who keep it running and the forum members benefit and derive great insight and how to knowledge from them.

Yes Porsche is a great product and they have invested billions into making their product what it is. But with that said, all products suffer issues (some serious, some not so) and Porsche is no different.

The Boxster is a two seat not very practical car that is built for driving enjoyment but fills the bill for many as a daily driver. If you are not able to purchase the car new and obtain a warranty to cover repairs and your not very handy at repairs...your going to need someone who is able to do the work. Just like Jake...should they just give you their time and effort for free? I think not.

For all those that feel things cost to much or are not shared openly enough, try this...sit down and read the service manual and research the problem and come up with your own solution and feel free to do with it what you want.

[Jake Raby]

Look, when we started developing the solutions to these problems we were laughed at for even disassembling one of the engines. In those days a brand new engine cost 5-7K and it was considered a total waste of time to even think about repairing one... Well thats what everyone else thought, but not what we saw.

Today that has all paid off, not just for us but also to each of you. How? We were able to learn enough that we can now work with companies like Worldpac to enhance their training programs to offer classes to independent technicians all over the US and Canada.

The majority of those that are here that use an Indy shop can take advantage of what we have learned and shared through these classes, one of which I am preparing for today. Its coming up in San Rafael California on June 23&24.

That said in my early days I made a lot of mistakes and divulged too much. After having info copied and pasted from my website to only be used against me later by someone who tried to be our competitor I have learned that there is no such thing as free information. From 2001 through 2007 I averaged an expenditure of 100K/ year in R&D costs, none of which were shared with anyone other than LN Engineering. Last time I checked none of you here had sent us a contribution for the cause, so I can't see how you can complain about us not sharing everything we know with you online for free? Why do we owe anyone this information? Hell, in the past month we have spent over 15K in further testing of the IMS Solution by making some very risky changes and forcing the component to fail just so we can see what happens and how the engine responds to a full blown failure. In the past 3 weeks we have purposely presented challenges to the product that we knew would kill it and have pulled the engine completely apart and reassembled it 4 times in the past 3 weeks just to see what was damaged and how severely.

Did those people in that 3 wide line pay to come talk to you or attend your the seminar Jake? I'm guess yes they paid in some way. If not entry fees then at least in travel cost.

For those who have an issue with you, probably don't want to pay to come talk crap man to man. It's not all about 'internet balls'.

Actually you have assumed incorrectly. What I was referring to were "tech talks" and etc given to PCA groups, at events and etc where there was no price of admission. Those in attendance might have paid to be at the event to show their car or etc but none paid me, nor was I paid by the show for the talks. Most of them were just attending the event that I was at and many didn't even know I was going to offer the talk until it was announced at the show.

I only charge four my engine rebuild school here at my facility and I doubt that anyone is going to pay 1500 bucks to argue with the instructor, knowing they'd find their way off my property in about 30 seconds if they did. I am paid by Worldpac to be an Instructor for their WTI program and the technicians that attend my classes are very respectful of what we have done and how it has been accomplished. Many of them have a true understanding of what is required to truly develop these fixes, where many here can't even fathom it.

I'll continue to learn and add "the secrets" to my journal. I am hoping to finish my "M96 engine assembly guide" over this summer. If buying what we have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of our lives to learn pisses anyone off, then they can go buy a Kia.

[rp17]

Thanks for trying to answer my question. And I am kind of familiar with those numbers. But I was thinking along the lines of Jakes quote 5-7k for a NEW engine. Some where along the line it more than doubled in price. Don't want to start another debate and take this thread way off track.

[QUOTE=Jake Raby;293582]Look, when we started developing the solutions to these problems we were laughed at for even disassembling one of the engines. In those days a brand new engine cost 5-7K and it was considered a total waste of time to even think about repairing one...