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Since we've somewhat gotten onto this subject anyway, a h/t question, something I've never quite understood:
When you are braking and simultaneously 'blipping' the throttle, is the blip to (1) rev match engine & transmission (ie you're doing it while the clutch is depressed and you are downshifting---after which you shift your right foot off the brake and back over to the accelerator to give it gas while letting the clutch out), orI'm guessin' it's (1), since the other suggests you're braking and trying to accelerate at the same time. But (acknowledging it'll wear your synchros faster) it's entirely possible to brake/clutch/down-shift all simultaneously without out blipping the throttle at all, until you start letting the clutch out. Is h/t primarily to save the transmission, or is it actually a faster way of negotiating a turn on a track? |
Agree with others, I only downshift to first when I'm in a parking lot.
One thing to note, while you can shift to neutral at any speed - it's not wise to do it much over 25mph. Reason being, if you engine happens to stall, you'll lose power steering & brake assist. -james |
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It takes a lot of practice. When you get it right, its a thing of beauty. Now if you really want to save your synchros, you have to double clutch downshift, but thats another complicated lesson. |
I am new to my 2001 'S' 6 speed and after 3 days of driving I have to concur that downshifting to 1st is rather pointless as its done under 10mph and you are virtually stopped
already, however you must for all the other gears because its fun, sounds good and reminds other drivers that you are driving a sexy SPORT car with a racing heritage not an ecobox lunch bucket with wheels. Downshifting is fun, saves the brakes and sounds cool. I have driven my MT Jeep wrangler for over 60,000 miles and still have good brake pads left. I ussually only touch the brakes lightly to indicate to traffic behind that I'm braking, and coming to a complete stop on a slope. The bliping of throttle to sync the engine/gearbox for a smooth transition in a downshift is an art and will take some time and practice to get it perfect as you learn your engines response time and hear its tone/rpm for the clutch timing but its also part of the fun. Hearing your engines tone is the best way to time it, in my experience, as the Tach lags and will take your eyes off more important things. Shift indicators are worse than useless and to be ignored (in the jeep at least) I would never shift to neutral while moving since you don't have control of your car anymore, ie you can not apply power to manuever or downshift or reduce throttle to brake, plus the gearbox and engine speeds get way out of sync and it will take more time to spool up when you want to go again. Just downshift or keep the clutch depressed so the syncro can do its work. |
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Topless is giving you good advise. Work on heel-toe, it will make you a smoother and safer driver. |
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Tag this onto the good advise, buy a cheap barely running beater manual to practice on. Tearing up a Porsche box on the learning curve is an expensive education, you don't get too many oopsies where as the 50's era VW I learned on could be nearly brutalized and still shift. |
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I'd forgotten just how much stress downshifts put on the clutch when you don't rev match until recently when I was in a GT-86 with a guy trying to drive fast but couldn't could heel and toe or even rev match on coast down. It was painful for the clutch and also upset the balance of the car horribly. No wonder some people tear through a clutch in 40k and others see theirs last 150k. Even a fairly poor attempt at heel and toe is less wear on the clutch than not trying. |
Brakes to slow, clutch/gears to go.
Use the clutch as little as possible and when you do, rev match. There's no point in downshifting sequentially, a 5-2 h/t downshift is the perfect answer. Feel free to shift to neutral from any gear and coast/come to a stop using only the brakes. Saves wear and tear on the clutch and transmission. And if you're worried about losing power steering/power brakes, fix your engine because it shouldn't just cut out randomly. |
Driving a Porsche with a bad 2nd gear synchronizer will cure you of any desire to downshift when coming to a stop. It has been a great exercise that taught me to use the brakes and not the gearbox to slow the car. I find I drive a lot further into a braking zone when I am not rowing down through the gears.
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2nd goes down to ~8mph. By then it's time to use the brakes |
I do not down shift if I'm braking to stop. Otherwise I do downshift (even inti 1st) if the road condition dictates it. Try to downshift and fully engaged before going into the turn.
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I downshift out of habit, but then I also costantly heal and toe out of habit. I can down shift into first any speed that is possible in that gear. My S will easily top 40mph in first, and there are turns that are tight enough to warrant the down shift. If you know what you are doing, it puts very little stress on the tranny/clutch...
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All good ADVICE, lol!
Yeah, it bugs me. :) |
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Thus when you see these cars with clutch changes well under 100k, you know they haven't been driven properly. |
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