Entry-level Porsche (identical to Boxster but cheaper) put on hold

[Ghostrider 310]

Perfectlap said what I wanted to say but said a little too harshly, my apologies. Regarding the introduction of the e steering, it's for mileage too, Hyundai is going that route and others too. As for more Spyder facts, here's the topgear track board, lots of fast cars under the spyder. Backs up perfectlap's commentary on it's vacancy in the next generation lineup. Note the much discussed assumed lighter Lotus cars are slower.


1:24.9 Porsche Boxster Spyder
1:24.9 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG
1:25.0 Noble M12 GTO-3R
1:25.0 BMW 1 Series M Coupe (damp)
1:25.0 Caterham R400
1:25.1 Lotus Exige S
1:25.3 Porsche Panamera turbo
1:25.3 BMW M3 (E90 Saloon)
1:25.7 Lotus Evora
1:25.7 Audi RS4[5]
1:25.7 Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
1:25.8 Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
1:25.9 Morgan Aero 8 GTN
1:26.0 Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
1:26.0 BMW Z4 M roadster (E85)
1:26.0 Noble M400 (Shown on Top Gear Revved Up DVD)
1:26.0 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320
1:26.2 BMW M5 (E60)
1:26.2 Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (damp)
1:26.2 Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
1:26.3 Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S
1:26.4 Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
1:26.5 BMW M3 E92 Competition Pack (moist)
1:26.7 Porsche Cayman S[5]
1:26.7 Jaguar XFR
1:26.8 Chevrolet Corvette C6 LS2
1:26.8 Aston Martin V12 Vantage (Not Shown on TV)[4]
1:26.8 Ferrari 575M Maranello GTC
1:26.9 Lexus IS-F
1:26.9 Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG
1:27:0 BMW M5 E39
1:27:0 KTM X-Bow (Driven by new Stig)
1:27.1 Aston Martin Vanquish S
1:27.1 Aston Martin DB9
1:27.1 HSV Maloo
1:27.2 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996) (very wet)
1:27.2 Tesla Roadster (mildly moist)
1:27.3 Spyker C8 Spyder
1:27.4 Aston Martin DBS (wet)
1:27.5 Audi RS5 (moist)
1:27.5 Nissan 370Z GT
1:27.5 TVR T350C
1:27.7 Cosworth Impreza STI CS400 (wet)
1:27.9 Wiesmann MF 3
1:27.9 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1:28.0 Roush Mustang
1:28.0 BMW M3 CSL (E46) (wet)[6]
1:28.1 Renault Mégane R26.R
1:28.2 BMW Z4 sDrive35i (E89)
1:28.2 BMW X5 M (E70) (wet)
1:28.2 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ-300

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310

Perfectlap said what I wanted to say but said a little too harshly, my apologies. Regarding the introduction of the e steering, it's for mileage too, Hyundai is going that route and others too. As for more Spyder facts, here's the topgear track board, lots of fast cars under the spyder. Backs up perfectlap's commentary on it's vacancy in the next generation lineup. Note the much discussed assumed lighter Lotus cars are slower.


1:24.9 Porsche Boxster Spyder
1:24.9 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG
1:25.0 Noble M12 GTO-3R
1:25.0 BMW 1 Series M Coupe (damp)
1:25.0 Caterham R400
1:25.1 Lotus Exige S
1:25.3 Porsche Panamera turbo
1:25.3 BMW M3 (E90 Saloon)
1:25.7 Lotus Evora
1:25.7 Audi RS4[5]
1:25.7 Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
1:25.8 Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
1:25.9 Morgan Aero 8 GTN
1:26.0 Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
1:26.0 BMW Z4 M roadster (E85)
1:26.0 Noble M400 (Shown on Top Gear Revved Up DVD)
1:26.0 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320
1:26.2 BMW M5 (E60)
1:26.2 Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (damp)
1:26.2 Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
1:26.3 Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S
1:26.4 Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
1:26.5 BMW M3 E92 Competition Pack (moist)
1:26.7 Porsche Cayman S[5]
1:26.7 Jaguar XFR
1:26.8 Chevrolet Corvette C6 LS2
1:26.8 Aston Martin V12 Vantage (Not Shown on TV)[4]
1:26.8 Ferrari 575M Maranello GTC
1:26.9 Lexus IS-F
1:26.9 Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG
1:27:0 BMW M5 E39
1:27:0 KTM X-Bow (Driven by new Stig)
1:27.1 Aston Martin Vanquish S
1:27.1 Aston Martin DB9
1:27.1 HSV Maloo
1:27.2 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996) (very wet)
1:27.2 Tesla Roadster (mildly moist)
1:27.3 Spyker C8 Spyder
1:27.4 Aston Martin DBS (wet)
1:27.5 Audi RS5 (moist)
1:27.5 Nissan 370Z GT
1:27.5 TVR T350C
1:27.7 Cosworth Impreza STI CS400 (wet)
1:27.9 Wiesmann MF 3
1:27.9 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1:28.0 Roush Mustang
1:28.0 BMW M3 CSL (E46) (wet)[6]
1:28.1 Renault Mégane R26.R
1:28.2 BMW Z4 sDrive35i (E89)
1:28.2 BMW X5 M (E70) (wet)
1:28.2 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ-300

Sorry, I can't resist. The E63. is that a sports car?

[Ghostrider 310]

They run everything on their own track, it's part of their show, below these are some everyday coupes and sedans. I noticed you could resist admitting it spanks some formidable competitors but hey I know you think the newer units are lame, so be it.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310

They run everything on their own track, it's part of their show, below these are some everyday coupes and sedans. I noticed you could resist admitting it spanks some formidable competitors but hey I know you think the newer units are lame, so be it.

You keep trying to put words in my mouth. If you can find that I said that the newer units are lame, I'll paypal you $1000.

Again, for like the 3rd time in this thread, a fast car does not make a sports car. I couldn't care less what a car's time is around a track. Even when I'm on the track. I care about how much the steering and chassis talk to me and how attainable and manageable the chassis limits are. These are the things that make a sports car fun at every speed. Not just track speed.

[Ghostrider 310]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

You keep trying to put words in my mouth. If you can find that I said that the newer units are lame, I'll paypal you $1000.

Again, for like the 3rd time in this thread, a fast car does not make a sports car.

These are the impressions I get from reading your words and between your words, posts are an imperfect medium for effective communications. Fact remains, the 65 lbs you claimed I'm spotting you is moot, you do remember the 65 lbs, right? No need for paypal sideshow stuff...

PS Better yet, does beating a 997 at laguna make it a sports car?

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310

These are the impressions I get from reading your words and between your words, posts are an imperfect medium for effective communications. Fact remains, the 65 lbs you claimed I'm spotting you is moot, you do remember the 65 lbs, right? No need for paypal sideshow stuff...

PS Better yet, does beating a 997 at laguna make it a sports car?

No, none of those things make it a sports car. It makes it a fast car.

There is no sideshow stuff, there is proving that what you are writing is not what I'm saying.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

Sorry, I can't resist. The E63. is that a sports car?

just add M or AMG to any bloated car and it will get you whatever N-ring lap time you wish for the next brochure.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

just add M or AMG to any bloated car and it will get you whatever N-ring lap time you wish for the next brochure.

No doubt. Lot's of power and sticky tires can do wonders for anything.