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thstone 01-18-2012 08:38 PM

991? Heck no! 1989 RUF CTR TWIN TURBO YELLOWBIRD
 
Tired of watching Porsche's become more like BMW's? Sports cars becoming more like GT's? Porsche worrying more about cup holders than cup racers?
If so, then check this out, a 1989 RUF CTR TWIN TURBO YELLOWBIRD for sale. Watch the video and see what it really means to drive a Porsche.

Porsche Porsche | eBay

blue2000s 01-18-2012 09:02 PM

How awesome is that?!?

DenverSteve 01-18-2012 09:03 PM

Cute car. Not $279,000 cute but cute. I can buy a GT2 for under $100,000 and either way neither one can drive faster than I do in my Boxster. But cute.

Ghostrider 310 01-19-2012 12:01 AM

Wouldn't even consider it, if I was shopping in that price point it wouldn't be for an old design 911, those are 458 Italia / Scud Spyder numbers..

coreseller 01-19-2012 02:33 AM

I've seen that video before, that car is an animal!! Not to mention the serious attachments on the driver (Stefan Roser). A quarter million plus is large money, but I doubt that car would depreciate much.

ekam 01-19-2012 02:39 AM

I'll be happy with one of these.

2006 Ruf Boxster 3.8S X51 Conversion - Autoweek

Flavor 987S 01-19-2012 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverSteve (Post 274843)
I can buy a GT2 for under $100,000 and either way neither one can drive faster than I do in my Boxster. But cute.

Not a 993 GT2 or a 997 GT2. Maybe a 996 series GT2.

Ghostrider 310 01-19-2012 03:25 AM

I always liked the Boxster with an Italian injection

STUDIOTORINO

Johnny Danger 01-19-2012 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 274838)
Tired of watching Porsche's become more like BMW's? Sports cars becoming more like GT's? Porsche worrying more about cup holders than cup racers?
If so, then check this out, a 1989 RUF CTR TWIN TURBO YELLOWBIRD for sale. Watch the video and see what it really means to drive a Porsche.

Porsche Porsche | eBay

Love the color ! :)

ekam 01-19-2012 04:15 AM

^Won't surprise me that you wear that color of underwear everyday Danger.

Frodo 01-19-2012 04:20 AM

Is it my imagination, or is that guy in the vid not even wearing a helmet??? :confused:

Johnny Danger 01-19-2012 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 274869)
^Won't surprise me that you wear that color of underwear everyday Danger.

I only wear underwear when I'm out on a long drive . If I have a breakdown, my thong can double as a fan belt .

jaykay 01-19-2012 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 274842)
How awesome is that?!?

Enjoyed that immensely thanks!

blue2000s 01-19-2012 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 274848)
Wouldn't even consider it, if I was shopping in that price point it wouldn't be for an old design 911, those are 458 Italia / Scud Spyder numbers..

You don't understand what this car is. The Ferraris are fantastic cars, but the Ruf CTR is a legend. This is more comparable to the F40 than the run-of-the-mill Ferraris that they're churning out now.

blue2000s 01-19-2012 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverSteve (Post 274843)
Cute car. Not $279,000 cute but cute. I can buy a GT2 for under $100,000 and either way neither one can drive faster than I do in my Boxster. But cute.

The driving experience would be so different from a 996 GT2, you wouldn't even think they were related cars. 600 pound weight difference!

See how the CTR is steered with all 4 wheels, I can just feel the steering wheel twitching and shaking watching that video. Compare that to a 996 and tell me which car would be more fun. I'm not asking about faster, more fun. Completely different things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKVPlA0V4Jw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Ghostrider 310 01-19-2012 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 274887)
You don't understand what this car is. The Ferraris are fantastic cars, but the Ruf CTR is a legend. This is more comparable to the F40 than the run-of-the-mill Ferraris that they're churning out now.


Thanks for underestimating me, I know what it is, I get Excellence, I still wouldn't buy it. People like the Veryon too, I wouldn't buy that either. I'd much rather have the GT Street RS.

blue2000s 01-19-2012 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 274889)
Thanks for underestimating me, I know what it is, I get Excellence, I still wouldn't buy it. People like the Veryon too, I wouldn't buy that either. I'd much rather have the GT Street RS.

Comparing it to a modern Ferrari makes me think that you don't get it.

thstone 01-19-2012 07:39 AM

This car is legendary and is certain to be bought by someone with a Porsche collection (hence the price). Its not a car that someone off the street would buy to drive to the country club - that's what 458 Italia's are for!

These are the cars that made Porsche legendary. They were wicked to drive and the most common statement was that the car was trying to kill the driver. It took huge heuvos and skill to master them.

Ghostrider 310 01-19-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 274890)
Comparing it to a modern Ferrari makes me think that you don't get it.

If I said I'd rather buy a condo I guess you wouldn't get that either.....

The Radium King 01-19-2012 08:48 AM

i've often thought about building a poor man's yellowbird. it's 'just' a modified 964 (currently second cheapest of the 911's after the 996). you could do all the standard lightening mods (seats, RS carpet and door cards, sound insulation, lexan, etc.) safety mods (cage, harness, etc.) suspension (964 already has coil-overs) and brakes easily enough, and can buy knock-off ruf front bumpers, etc., everywhere (note the yellowbird didn't have flares to reduce aerodynamic drag and maximise top speed).

regarding the engine, i am of the understanding there were two versions; a ctr 1 and ctr 2. one had a completely built engine, but the other was built on a stock engine. this is cool, as the higher compression of a n/a engine gives you more lower rpm torque and smooths-out the lag from a big turbo(s). i think they tucked the intercoolers in the rear wheel wells like the 959. anyways, there's lots of threads on the pelican turbo forum on how to turbo a n/a aircooled engine on the cheap, so do-able.

ok, now get back to arguing about something that has no right/wrong answer.

blue2000s 01-19-2012 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Radium King (Post 274899)
i've often thought about building a poor man's yellowbird. it's 'just' a modified 964 (currently second cheapest of the 911's after the 996). you could do all the standard lightening mods (seats, RS carpet and door cards, sound insulation, lexan, etc.) safety mods (cage, harness, etc.) suspension (964 already has coil-overs) and brakes easily enough, and can buy knock-off ruf front bumpers, etc., everywhere (note the yellowbird didn't have flares to reduce aerodynamic drag and maximise top speed).

regarding the engine, i am of the understanding there were two versions; a ctr 1 and ctr 2. one had a completely built engine, but the other was built on a stock engine. this is cool, as the higher compression of a n/a engine gives you more lower rpm torque and smooths-out the lag from a big turbo(s). i think they tucked the intercoolers in the rear wheel wells like the 959. anyways, there's lots of threads on the pelican turbo forum on how to turbo a n/a aircooled engine on the cheap, so do-able.

The CTR (1) is based on the pre 964 chassis. You can visually tell by the long, floor mounted shift lever.

blue2000s 01-19-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 274898)
If I said I'd rather buy a condo I guess you wouldn't get that either.....

Deflection. That's fine with me.

The Radium King 01-19-2012 08:59 AM

ok, and makes sense as the 911 chassis is fundamentally lighter than the 964 (no transmission tunnel for the awd). that also helps with my vague remembrance that the stock engine ruf turbo'd was a 3.2, but again i was being lazy and didn't refresh my memory (uhh ... wiki is still down, right ...?). personally, i find the 964 (and ruf) body style (bumpers) 'heavy' and would rather start with a pre-89 base car. in fact, one of my dream cars is a 3.2 carrera with the wide body option, sunroof delete and turbo charger with mild boost - what a car!!!

jaykay 01-19-2012 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Radium King (Post 274902)
ok, and makes sense as the 911 chassis is fundamentally lighter than the 964 (no transmission tunnel for the awd). that also helps with my vague remembrance that the stock engine ruf turbo'd was a 3.2, but again i was being lazy and didn't refresh my memory (uhh ... wiki is still down, right ...?). personally, i find the 964 (and ruf) body style (bumpers) 'heavy' and would rather start with a pre-89 base car. in fact, one of my dream cars is a 3.2 carrera with the wide body option, sunroof delete and turbo charger with mild boost - what a car!!!

I am with you on the pre 89.....classic Porsche lines right in the middle of old and new. Almost had one long before the box...just missed it!

Ghostrider 310 01-19-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 274901)
Deflection. That's fine with me.


Nope, wrong again, I simply don't like the car, I'd rather have the 911T back my brother owned in the seventies. However, that body style is played and again at that price you might be able to get a GT Street RS, much cooler ride IMO. Given that neither are in my shopping range it's moot, I truly would buy a Boxster and a house in Florida on the beach first...

blue2000s 01-19-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 274910)
Nope, wrong again, I simply don't like the car, I'd rather have the 911T back my brother owned in the seventies. However, that body style is played and again at that price you might be able to get a GT Street RS, much cooler ride IMO. Given that neither are in my shopping range it's moot, I truly would buy a Boxster and a house in Florida on the beach first...

So now we have as opportunity cost:

458
or
Scuderia
or
Condo
or
911T
or
GT Street RS (maybe this is a GT3 RS?)
or
Boxster and a house in Florida

That's not deflecting?

The Radium King 01-19-2012 01:04 PM

i'd like to add guns and canned food to that list; i'm really afraid of the pending zombie holocaust.

Johnny Danger 01-19-2012 01:06 PM

So now we have as opportunity cost:

458
or
Scuderia
or
Condo
or
911T
or
GT Street RS (maybe this is a GT3 RS?)
or
Boxster and a house in Florida



or

The Dangermobile

The Radium King 01-19-2012 01:09 PM

begs the question: how much canned food can you fit in the trunk of the Dangermobile vs a Scuderia vs a condo in Florida? Do condos have trunks?

blue2000s 01-19-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 274914)

or

The Dangermobile

Would you take payments?

ekam 01-19-2012 01:15 PM

http://fixtstore.com/news/files/2010...d-noises-b.jpg

Johnny Danger 01-19-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 274916)
Would you take payments?

Only with off-shore funds . :)

Johnny Danger 01-19-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Radium King (Post 274915)
begs the question: how much canned food can you fit in the trunk of the Dangermobile vs a Scuderia vs a condo in Florida? Do condos have trunks?

It depends on how many bodies there are in the trunk .

Ghostrider 310 01-19-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 274914)
So now we have as opportunity cost:

458
or
Scuderia
or
Condo
or
911T
or
GT Street RS (maybe this is a GT3 RS?)
or
Boxster and a house in Florida



or

The Dangermobile


You guys bored? Hey check it, I can't walk, sit or stand on my own schedule, all of you already won whatever competition you perceive we are in. As for the car, I get it, if it had a vage you would screw it, got it. After all, that would be the only way you could conclude that what I'm looking at will still trail it and since we are two people in anonymity, who effing cares anyhow?

I'm done with the subject.

blue2000s 01-19-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 274931)
You guys bored?

I am, snowed in for 3 days. Add that with the fact that I like to argue...

Ghostrider 310 01-19-2012 04:02 PM

Apparently winter is making everyone like to argue. I'm bored with my condition, I can't understand how anyone healthy likes posting so much. I'd love to go skiing, winter hiking, snowmobiling any of that stuff.

thstone 01-19-2012 04:21 PM

I'm not bored and I'm not snowed in (it was 68F here today) and I don't particularly like to argue.

But I do like to talk about Porsche's and this one was off the chart! I can't get enough of that video. :D

coreseller 01-19-2012 04:37 PM

Wasn't able to find it but I thought there was one of the same car running the ring with video taken from a helicopter showing some mind boggling power slides. Same car with some footage taken outside of the cockpit:

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DenverSteve 01-19-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 274888)
The driving experience would be so different from a 996 GT2, you wouldn't even think they were related cars. 600 pound weight
Caterham Vs Porsche GT2 - Nurburgring '09 - YouTube

If that "driving experience" would be worth that price to you, then that's great. If I wanted a different driving experience, i would simply sell my 986 and buy it. For $279,000 I can buy over a dozen cars I would rather have than an old Porsche. I would certainly opt for a 1969 Ferrari Daytona over that P. I would opt for that "driving experience" . To each man his own preference. ;). And again, I would opt for a much newer twin turbo if I wanted to feel G's. Otherwise, I would drop a TT in my Boxster for 1/10th the price and have "the" driving experience.

blue2000s 01-19-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverSteve (Post 274946)
If that "driving experience" would be worth that price to you, then that's great. If I wanted a different driving experience, i would simply sell my 986 and buy it. For $279,000 I can buy over a dozen cars I would rather have than an old Porsche. I would certainly opt for a 1969 Ferrari Daytona over that P. I would opt for that "driving experience" . To each man his own preference. ;). And again, I would opt for a much newer twin turbo if I wanted to feel G's. Otherwise, I would drop a TT in my Boxster for 1/10th the price and have "the" driving experience.

Not a sports car fan?


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