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Bala 01-08-2012 01:08 PM

Rear Fog Lights
 
Do the rear fog lights work on separate sides like the parking lights or both sides together? My right brake blub blew and I pulled the fog bulb to replace. Later I put in a new one for the fog and it doesn't light up. Tried different bulbs. Left works but right doesn't. No corrosion or wires or leads, fuse is ok and all other bulbs are working. Not that I desperately need the rear ones but wondering if something is wrong.

bar10dah 01-08-2012 01:33 PM

Both sides together.

jotoole 01-09-2012 04:07 AM

Driver's side only.

Mark_T 01-09-2012 04:31 AM

Drivers side only, that is - left on LHD cars, right on RHD cars. This is described in the owner's manual.

Bala 01-09-2012 05:24 AM

Since I don't have the owner's manual I was confused. Thanks for the replies.

bar10dah 01-09-2012 09:22 AM

Guess I'm mistaken. I thought I saw both sides come on when I first used that switch about four months ago.

jotoole 01-10-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bar10dah (Post 273324)
Guess I'm mistaken. I thought I saw both sides come on when I first used that switch about four months ago.

I have OCD, and really want all the bulbs on my cars to function. Before my owner's manual arrived, I spent some time with continuity tester and such trying to fix the passenger side rear fog. It DID come with a bulb in place. I've read reasons why just the one side, but don't quite get it. I drive along the Ohio river on the way to work @ 5:00 AM occasional very heavy fog. Would prefer 2 rear fogs. Am tempted to rig it.

Bala 01-10-2012 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bar10dah (Post 273324)
Guess I'm mistaken. I thought I saw both sides come on when I first used that switch about four months ago.

I thought i saw both come on one time. But could have been dreaming. Dont understand why one side. If i am in the middle lane of a three lane hiway in fog i definitely would want both to work. Guess its rigging time!

Jaxonalden 01-10-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bala (Post 273468)
I thought i saw both come on one time. But could have been dreaming. Dont understand why one side. If i am in the middle lane of a three lane hiway in fog i definitely would want both to work. Guess its rigging time!

If you do that other drivers won't be able to tell when you step on the brakes, hense ONE light only.

coreseller 01-10-2012 04:34 AM

I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one perplexed by this several years back. Spent an hour or so screwing around pulling out rear tail light assemblies only to find out the following day only one side should be working.

Eric G 01-10-2012 05:08 AM

Talk about timing on this thread...I just noticed the exact same thing last night and was worried I had blown a bulb.

Bala 01-10-2012 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxonalden (Post 273470)
If you do that other drivers won't be able to tell when you step on the brakes, hense ONE light only.


but, but but....

I'm not happy about this! :mad:

tonycarreon 01-10-2012 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bala (Post 273482)
but, but but....

I'm not happy about this! :mad:

but you would be happy driving around with people thinking "wow - that guy's riding his brakes a lot..."? how often do you use your rear foglight? i did when i first got the car, now i never do.

Topless 01-10-2012 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bala (Post 273482)
but, but but....

I'm not happy about this! :mad:

Don't worry, be happy. :) The designers were very wise using one rear fog light, and one fog light only. It is very easy to overthink this.

Mark_T 01-10-2012 10:01 AM

"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one perplexed by this several years back. Spent an hour or so screwing around pulling out rear tail light assemblies only to find out the following day only one side should be working."

"Talk about timing on this thread...I just noticed the exact same thing last night and was worried I had blown a bulb."


Doesn't anyone read their owner's manual ???

Eric G 01-10-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 273516)
[I]
Doesn't anyone read their owner's manual ???

Sure, but pictures only go so far!:p

ekam 01-10-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 273516)
Doesn't anyone read their owner's manual ???

Real men don't read manuals.

coreseller 01-10-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 273516)
"I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one perplexed by this several years back. Spent an hour or so screwing around pulling out rear tail light assemblies only to find out the following day only one side should be working."

"Talk about timing on this thread...I just noticed the exact same thing last night and was worried I had blown a bulb."


Doesn't anyone read their owner's manual ???



No.....

Doesn't anyone tire of being the admonisher
? :rolleyes:

jaykay 01-10-2012 11:16 AM

The lighting system is cool and unique in my opinion.

Try the parking lights next !

Bala 01-10-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 273521)
Real men don't read manuals.

+1. I don't have a manual!!

Bala 01-10-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 273523)
The lighting system is cool and unique in my opinion.

Try the parking lights next !

I had known about the parking light from back when I was a kid and had a chance to borrow (?) my dad Merc and subsequently a Peugeot. Thought that was cool and makes sense if the car is parked.

One sided fog light used while driving don't make sense. I know the roads in Germany have more than one lane. :rolleyes: Someone screwed up and I'm going to fix it!! Or make all 4 brake lights. That should keep the tailgaters away if they do catch up. :p

bar10dah 01-10-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 273516)

Doesn't anyone read their owner's manual ???

I've read the owner's manual. Cover to cover. However, I don't recall the part about the single rear fog light.

Heck, I would be hard pressed to find anyone who could recall *every single piece* of information in a book they read.

bar10dah 01-10-2012 02:05 PM

I've read through nearly every single page in the 101projects book. Very interested in the topic and took time to soak all that information in! But I'm sure there are more than 100 questions you could ask me and I wouldn't remember what was written in the book.

But going back to the owner's manual. It's a great reference to go back to when you have questions about how certain features operate. However, I would understand if a user wouldn't think to refer to the owner's manual because of a feature they didn't think would be covered in the manual. But either way, this wouldn't apply to the original poster, as he doesn't even have an owner's manual anyways. :)

jotoole 01-11-2012 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxonalden (Post 273470)
If you do that other drivers won't be able to tell when you step on the brakes, hense ONE light only.

When brake pedal depressed, the BRAKE lights, including the center high row of brake lights, also light up. Very apparent.
IIRC, one or more other countries are very strict about passing on driver side only. This would be impractical on our multiple lane highways. Not to mention folks who just plain disregard the rules.

jotoole 01-11-2012 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonycarreon (Post 273495)
but you would be happy driving around with people thinking "wow - that guy's riding his brakes a lot..."? how often do you use your rear foglight? i did when i first got the car, now i never do.

ALWAYS in heavy fog. And when in heavy fog, often passed by folks who are way out-driving the distance they can see. They have no chance of stopping short of something (or somebody) in roadway.
And some people think seat belts are foolish. Really don't give a rat's -ss what other people might be thinking.

Mark_T 01-11-2012 05:24 AM

I have a copy of the 986 owner's manual in pdf format and I would be happy to email a copy to anyone who pm's me for it.

And, for the record, I totally disagree - real men DO read manuals. If anything I buy comes with a manual, I read it cover to cover before operating the item. This has often saved me from costly "who'da thought?" lessons in life.

I apologize for coming across all admonish-y, but I'm sure anyone who has hung around here for any length of time will agree that there are a lot of questions posted that would not have been if the poster took the time to crack a book or (and I realize this is an extreme suggestion) used the forum search function. I don't mind helping others out with info, and have posted many long-winded answers to members' technical questions, but at least make the effort to see if the info you seek is readily available. This is topic is a good example as it has been covered in the forum previously here:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/19220-rear-fog-light.html

and here:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/26324-tail-light-rear-fog-question.html

and here:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/23448-rear-fog-lights.html

and here:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/22665-fog-light-bulb-problem.html

and here:

http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/21721-tail-light-short-please-help.html

and here:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/14178-rear-fog-lights.html

and here:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/11746-rear-fog-light-not-working.html

and here:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/8969-tail-foglight-problem.html

and these are just the first two pages of search results.

Eric G 01-11-2012 05:53 AM

Mark, good reply...but in all seriousness one of the problems with a any forum like this, replies like your and stored historical content is this: To a new owner of a car, bike, truck, RV or what ever, when they experience something for the first time...ITS NEW TO THEM.

Your reply is a common statement made on countless forums: Search is your friend; take some time and look around; try doing your homework before you post...the list goes on.


Why does this seemingly simple problem arise? As I stated, when a problem is NEW TO YOU, the member may not know how to phrase the question they are thinking about, they may have searched and not found what they needed, or if they did...they may be hoping someone will talk with them about there problem. They do not want to be admonished for being foolish or taken for being stupid...they are simply reaching out for help.

The forums have become our old water cooler of the past and with this change there tends to be a tendency to be quicker on our reply to new members posting what the "older" crowd on a forum see as...OMG not another one of "those" questions. While I am new to this forum, this is not my first rodeo.

This is one of those cases where if you don't have constructive or helpful comments to make, it might be best not to make any at all. You can't moderate people into doing something you think is right, but what you can do is offer help. In this case, it sounds like you have a wealth of information and helpful areas to offer...have you thought about creating a FAQ thread to help in cases like this and other topics?

To the OP...thanks for asking the question, as I said your timing was perfect as I just noticed this on my car the same day.

ekam 01-11-2012 06:14 AM

I think we just need a big sticky post listing out all the little questions that's been asked 100 times.

Bala 01-11-2012 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 273695)
I think we just need a big sticky post listing out all the little questions that's been asked 100 times.

Most of it is there if we look for it: Porsche Boxster (986) FAQ

x x x Fog Lights Integrated in Headlight Unit; Rear Fog Light, Left


I want to talk to people not websites!!!:)

Mark_T 01-11-2012 06:37 AM

I like your idea Eric, and I think Ekam's suggestion is an excellent way to tackle it.

Suggestion for frequently covered topics could be:
-top doesn't work (handbrake switch)
-psgr side fog light not working (of course)
-battery dead, frunk won't open (use cable)
-key won't turn in ignition (take pressure off steering wheel)
-coolant light flashing (low coolant or dead engine fan)
-winter storage (also covered in owner's manual)
-white smoke (failed AOS)
-puff of bue smoke at start-up (normal)
-list of failed ignition switch symptoms
-top replacement (link to Mike's tutorial cuz if you can't follow this you shouldn't be doing it)
-list of handy special tools and their uses

Hey, I have an idea - maybe someone should write a book of a hundred or so common Boxster projects.... :)

nieuwhzn 01-11-2012 06:54 AM

The little Boxster has been around for 15 years already. I'm pretty certain that most questions have been asked before by now. I'm equally sure that all those questions have been answered too.
So, let's shut down all comments on Boxster forums!

I got my Boxster 1 year ago and I greatly enjoy reading through all the comments on this forum. It's like one big discovery fest and I appreciate finding out I'm not the only ignoramus.

Fog on Long Island? Not much or maybe it has cleared up by the time I get out of bed.
Bala, you're ready for your inspection?

Looks like we have some critical Boxster mass on Long Island, we should plan a Spring get together.

blue2000s 01-11-2012 07:15 AM

Automotive lighting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

coreseller 01-11-2012 11:40 AM

1. I posted my experience (which did happen) to alleviate any embarrassment Bala, the original poster may have experienced.

2. I had in fact read the owner's manual right after purchasing the car, this tidbit of information eluded my recollection when I noticed only one light lit.

3. Comments like "Doesn't anyone read their owner's manual ???", especially in bold, regarding prior posters' comments will rarely elicit a positive reaction from them. General politeness and etiquette go a long way.

4. Yes, I agree this forum could use a FAQ section. It would save quite a few repetitive posts.

:cheers:

An Addendum : In all fairness, # 3 is something I've had to learn myself.

tonycarreon 01-11-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreseller (Post 273757)
An Addendum : In all fairness, # 3 is something I've had to learn myself.

:o


as long as it's not another oil thread i'll usually read it. :matchup:

coreseller 01-11-2012 02:25 PM

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Mark_T 01-11-2012 03:12 PM

Yeah, I can be a little abrasive sometimes. I try to compensate through good deeds.

Bala 01-11-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by coreseller (Post 273800)
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Smokes like boxster too.....

coreseller 01-11-2012 03:18 PM

No worries Mr. Mark, we're all compensating............with Porsches. :eek:

tonycarreon 01-11-2012 03:33 PM

darn! four guard is only available in 10-30...

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