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Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 10:53 AM

Let's Play: Guess How Much
 
Thing has some good options but park assist on a car designed and marketed as lightened? Not a fanclub member of the wheels either, you guys tell me if you think it's worth ninety.


2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder - Cars.com

ddb 01-02-2012 11:07 AM

I'm not a fan of the Spyder top, but that one is striking! I love the white seat backs and roll bar. The red accents really are a nice touch. I would want black wheels for contrast.

For me, no, it isn't worth $90k. I'm sure it is for someone.

thstone 01-02-2012 11:09 AM

Here is a close comp at $80K: Pre-owned Search - North America - Porsche Cars North America Inc.

I love the new Spyders! I've ridden in one on the street and on the track and they are simply amazing compared to my early 986.

jbs986 01-02-2012 11:14 AM

I love the spiders, no way is this worth $90k you can buy them new at the dealer for less, like in the $75k-$79K range, the color of the wheels on this one are not stock, I prefer silver or BLK. rims.:)

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 11:14 AM

I'm going to swing for the fences on this car, I hope I can afford a used spyder. If not, the bright side is shopping for one makes the S seem like a bargain, everything is relative.

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 11:24 AM

No way would I pay 90K for a boxster . At that point, you're into low mileage 360 Modena territory .

blue2000s 01-02-2012 11:24 AM

$90k...lol...sigh...$90k...lol...pause...lol

blue2000s 01-02-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 271992)
No way would I pay 90K for a boxster . At that point, you're into low mileage 360 Modena territory .

Way over Modena territory. They're in the $70s from what I can see. Gotalittlething for the Modena dontcha?

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 11:33 AM

I like the new Modena, the older affordable 11 year old units have the lights that don't do it for me. It's also a V8 guzzler and I'm certain a car nobody near me will service.

blue2000s 01-02-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 271997)
I like the new Modena, the older affordable 11 year old units have the lights that don't do it for me. It's also a V8 guzzler and I'm certain a car nobody near me will service.

You're talking about the Italia? That's a little more pricey.

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 11:46 AM

I don't think so, the newer modena has updated lights, I'm already wondering what it would be like asking my local Porsche dealer to enforce the warranty on an out of state internet buy, would have no where to take the prancing black horse at all...

ddb 01-02-2012 11:49 AM

If you go to Scottsdale to check out the Spyder they have a 2010 Italia too!

2010 Ferrari 458 Italia Base, $289,000 - Cars.com

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 11:52 AM

289? Is that all? OK deal, just let me sell the two beach condos I don't have

blue2000s 01-02-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 271999)
I don't think so, the newer modena has updated lights, I'm already wondering what it would be like asking my local Porsche dealer to enforce the warranty on an out of state internet buy, would have no where to take the prancing black horse at all...

Then maybe you're talking about the F430? They're still way up in price too, they'll slide for a while now that the Italia has been introduced.

Modena: http://www.modelsinfoupdate.com/wp-c...%20%287%29.jpg

F430: http://www.autospecifications.org/ca...rrari-f430.jpg

Italia: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....talia_lead.jpg

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 12:04 PM

Didn't the 430 go to the 450 which is reported to be more robust and cheaper to repair, the one I was was a spider, I'll go get it and post it.

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 12:06 PM

360 modena with the triple light combo, don't like it.

http://www.leftcoastexotics.com/2002-ferrari-360-modena/

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 12:12 PM

It's the 2005 F430 spyder that I like the lights are far cooler

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 271994)
Way over Modena territory. They're in the $70s from what I can see. Gotalittlething for the Modena dontcha?

Yes, I've seen 360's in the 70K range. However, newer, low mileage ones are in the 80-90k plus range . My goal over the next year is to pick a pristine 2004 Challenge Stradale .

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 12:40 PM

Even a pristine late model non CS might do it for me . :)



Ferrari : 360 Ferrari : 360 | eBay

ekam 01-02-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 272018)
Even a pristine late model non CS might do it for me . :)



Ferrari : 360 Ferrari : 360 | eBay

Anyone who's half knowledgeable will avoid the F1 transmission like a plague. Hence the low asking price.

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 01:12 PM

ekam, What is the oldest acceptable automatic transmission on a Ferrari?

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ekam (Post 272019)
Anyone who's half knowledgeable will avoid the F1 transmission like a plague. Hence the low asking price.

By 2002 Ferrari had pretty much worked out all of the bugs with their F1 transmission. And, most of the f1 problems associated with earlier 360's were corrected with software updates as well .

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 01:23 PM

Everyone please weigh in: How do you buy a car on the opposite coast unseen and protect yourself from receiving a car with a blemish or some other point you would have otherwise negotiated about?

blue2000s 01-02-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 272007)
Didn't the 430 go to the 450 which is reported to be more robust and cheaper to repair, the one I was was a spider, I'll go get it and post it.

That is the f430. Timing chain cam drive so you don't have to pull the engine to do the timing belt every 5 years. There wasn't a 450, the 458 replaced the 430.

blue2000s 01-02-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 272032)
Everyone please weigh in: How do you buy a car on the opposite coast unseen and protect yourself from receiving a car with a blemish or some other point you would have otherwise negotiated about?

Unless you know someone over there who can look the car over, I don't know how you'd do it. You can fly out and look it over and drive it home :)

blue2000s 01-02-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 272031)
By 2002 Ferrari had pretty much worked out all of the bugs with their F1 transmission. And, most of the f1 problems associated with earlier 360's were corrected with software updates as well .

It's still an automatic.

I drove a Maserati Coupe with the newer F1, it's still jerky and not much fun if you're not doing acceleration runs.

Burg Boxster 01-02-2012 01:52 PM

Depends on how anal you might be but in a nutshell... You don't! You fly out and inspect it personally or you'll kick yourself for not having done so when it arrives w/ something you're disappointed in. Even if you have someone you really trust (who is also a car guy to your same degree) do it for you, they must be as anal as you. And must be someone you really really really really really trust. Even then, be prepared to face some disappointments and not hold it against your appointee.

Plus, after putting in the effort to get there, you'll negotiate harder by being overly critical and a bit cranky (which is a good thing in this case) ;)

Good luck :)

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 272036)
Unless you know someone over there who can look the car over, I don't know how you'd do it. You can fly out and look it over and drive it home :)

I might be genuinely interested in a car in Santa Monica, may need a member to fine comb it.

blue2000s 01-02-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 272039)
I might be genuinely interested in a car in Santa Monica, may need a member to fine comb it.

Santa Monica, there are worse places to visit and pick up a Porsche.

vitaminC 01-02-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 272032)
Everyone please weigh in: How do you buy a car on the opposite coast unseen and protect yourself from receiving a car with a blemish or some other point you would have otherwise negotiated about?

If you're spending up to 90k on a car, a round trip ticket to see it in person first seems like small change and a really good idea.

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vitaminC (Post 272043)
If you're spending up to 90k on a car, a round trip ticket to see it in person first seems like small change and a really good idea.

Very true but it will never be me spending 90K, the guy said a newsperson was interested, he's listed it above msrp, she can have it..

fivepointnine 01-02-2012 02:26 PM

you could get 2 355's for that price!

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fivepointnine (Post 272046)
you could get 2 355's for that price!

Actually, 355's have climbed price . In some cases, a pristine one will encroach upon 360 prices .

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s (Post 272037)
It's still an automatic.

I drove a Maserati Coupe with the newer F1, it's still jerky and not much fun if you're not doing acceleration runs.

Whether or not a person likes the F1 system is subjective. Personally, I would prefer a manual transmission in a 360 . However, 6 speed transmissions are difficult to come by in later 360's . In any case, as far as reliability is concerned, Ferrari's F1 system has been pretty well sorted out over the last several years .

fivepointnine 01-02-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 272057)
Actually, 355's have climbed price . In some cases, a pristine one will encroach upon 360 prices .

several on craigslist around here for low to mid 40's.....why are their prices climbing? The performance on those is nowhere near the new Ferrari's.......

blue2000s 01-02-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fivepointnine (Post 272061)
several on craigslist around here for low to mid 40's.....why are their prices climbing? The performance on those is nowhere near the new Ferrari's.......

With the Ferraris, it's about age, significance and rarity, not performance.

Ghostrider 310 01-02-2012 04:14 PM

355 is said to be more expensive to maintain than than it's newer replacement, according to net searches anyway.

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fivepointnine (Post 272061)
several on craigslist around here for low to mid 40's.....why are their prices climbing? The performance on those is nowhere near the new Ferrari's.......

Come on Craigslist ! Consider the source . Check out a reputable site like the The DuPont Registry, and you'll see well maintained coupes fetching into the 70k plus range, and spiders upwards of 100k .

fivepointnine 01-02-2012 04:23 PM

go all out and buy a old testarossa not really usable but you sure will get noticed lol

Johnny Danger 01-02-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310 (Post 272069)
355 is said to be more expensive to maintain than than it's newer replacement, according to net searches anyway.

One of the major downsides to the 355 is that in order to do the 3 year/15,000 mile cam belt service, the engine has to be completely removed .


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