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Old 01-06-2012, 03:41 PM   #1
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regarding gas consumption from your list, the Escalade gets 18mpg highway. My Boxster does about 21 mpg.
The Ford Edge crossover/SUV thing gets 30 mpg higwhay.
EPA numbers?

'12 Escalade 2wd: 14 city, 18 hwy, 16 combined

'12 Boxster: 20 city, 29 hwy, 24 combined

Real world, I'm sure Escalade MPGs are less, as most Escalade drivers aren't shy with the throttle. Not a fair estimate, as there's just one entry for a 2003, but real world (where users input their own mileage) shows 17 MPG from one user.

Real world with a 1999 Boxster (they didn't have a 2003 listed, so I used '99 as that's what I drive) shows three cars with an average of 24 MPG. Mine is listed as #1, and as you can see, for the past 4,000 miles, mostly city driving, I've averaged 22 MPG. I've gotten as high as 26 and as low as 18.3.

And since you bought up the Ford Edge, I'll use the 2007 model, as it has the most cars (the more data points, the better the averages) shows 16 city, 23 hwy, and 19 combined for EPA. And it shows 18 MPG as an average for 15 vehicles. Far cry from 30 MPG.

I definitely didn't buy the Boxster for it's fuel economy, but it's nice to see I'm getting better fuel economy with my Boxster than I was getting from my '05 Accord. My city average in the Boxster is usually around 20 MPG. For the Accord, it was 17 MPG. And, the Boxster is just so much more fun to drive! Sure, I miss being able to take a third, maybe fourth, person to lunch. But I've never had this much fun "commuting" to work!
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:42 AM   #2
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^Those parts add up. I did the math on my $12-13K in repairs/upgrades and I'd say only 40% was labor, and there weren't really that many upgrades when I come to think of it.
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I bought mine because it's more exclusive than a SLK or Z3/Z4 and it's more reliable too. Oh and it has two trunks and no extra seats for for tag-a-longs
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I bought mine because it's more exclusive than a SLK or Z3/Z4 and it's more reliable too. Oh and it has two trunks and no extra seats for for tag-a-longs
This is going to sound silly but.... the two trunks were a big selling point for me.

There's almost no other convertible that offers as much trunk space as the Boxster does with the top down, and certainly no convertible with as much space AND is as well reviewed.

Every magazine, every reviewer, absolutely loves the Boxster. It's very difficult to find anyone saying anything negative. It's... almost weird, like they were all paid off, or they were all on happy pills while reviewing the car. But after buying one I can honestly say it deserves all the praise it receives. It's the perfect car.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:28 AM   #6
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as a new owner of an 02 S i feel the same as the op. i had looked at buying another mini or even an s2000, but couldn't believe that i could get a near perfect40k S for well under 20k. a similar mileage mini cooper jcw, albeit a newer model year, runs close to 16-17k. it just seems like a no-brainer. the maintenance costs are certainly an issue, but a base model for 10k vs. anything else out there is a bargain.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:15 AM   #7
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I ran a highway mileage check when I first got my car (99 2.5). Four hours, steady speed of 65 mph, straight line, dead flat prairie = 32 mpg. Two hours each way so wind wasn't a factor.

But normally I'm getting about 21-23 mixed hwy/city, driving briskly.
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I have not got 300 miles on a gas tank yet, and I think I ran out of gas on one of my boxsters
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I have not got 300 miles on a gas tank yet, and I think I ran out of gas on one of my boxsters
Really? I just filled mine up today, 290 miles, put in 13 gallons so I had 2 gallons to spare stupid 98's and their tiny 15 gallon gas tank guess that gives me more time to chat with the ladies at the pump though

But I'm still learning how to drive a stick so I'm sure it'll improve a bit more as soon as I figure out that I don't need to revv it to 4000 rpms to start moving in 1st

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Old 12-06-2011, 10:47 AM   #10
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That's never a good thing for any car. I did come dangerously close to an empty tank once with the Boxster...never again, that was more sweating than I'd like to do in that car.

I know what you mean about not getting a lot of mileage from a tank. I've been getting a pretty consistent 20.5mpg for each tank, though I rarely let the car go beyond an indicated 1/4 tank before filling up. I've yet to see more than maybe 280 miles out of a tank regardless of how much driving is city and highway, but I also make sure I don't lug the engine in 5th going 65, so I know this plays a part.

I didn't buy the car for its gas sipping, though. Nobody was thinking about 7-speed manuals back then.

There are some of us who like to enjoy and have fun with driving. Other people just want a car that has four wheels with maybe as many working brakes, enough oil to not seize up, at least one working door handle/headlight/signal (brake lights are optional), and just enough cylinders to get them from point A to point B and they could care less if it has 15 inch black steelies and plastic body panels. Still othes are trying in vain to trade in their older and/or less efficient cars for something aenemic like a Honda Fit that could get better mileage and have a bigger tank for a car its size to be worth its price. They think they're doing themselves a favor even though they may end up filling up just as frequently as I do, albeit on regular vs. premium, but if your Fit is getting 30mpg on a 10.5 gallon tank (and that's still a big IF), you're getting just over 300 miles from it, no better than my Corolla with the 2 extra gallons it holds.

For those of us who want to enjoy driving (even when people are just getting in your way ), there's a reason to buy and enjoy a sports car like a Porsche.
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I'm the opposite. I rarely fill up even to half way unless I'm just about to embark upon a trip that definitely needs more than half a tank, which isn't often. You don't get a discount for buying in bulk, more gas means more weight and smaller amounts of fresh fuel is better than letting it sit in the tank and go off. It probably doesn't go much, but that's my reasoning.

Of course, the outrageous fuel prices in the UK rather discourage brimming it on a whim, too.
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I rarely fill past the halfway mark either. i think of it like carrying around an extra 8 gallons of milk in the trunk.
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I am always filling my Porsche with fuel. Thats because I find any excuse to take the car on an errand just about every day. The best $10K toy I ever bought !!! It's just a shame it took so long to buy one. I am trying to make up for lost time. We are all lucky to own one !!! Max
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"If I wanted a sound system I'd drive an escalade and fill it full of subwoofers"

Nothing bugs me more than being stopped at a red light and my mirrors are vibrating because some punk has his subwoofers cranked and all I can hear and feel is this " boom boom boom". If I had my way, anyone caught with a subwoofer in their car would be hauled out of it and beaten to a pulp, followed by their car being towed away and crushed to a cube.
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"If I wanted a sound system I'd drive an escalade and fill it full of subwoofers"

Nothing bugs me more than being stopped at a red light and my mirrors are vibrating because some punk has his subwoofers cranked and all I can hear and feel is this " boom boom boom". If I had my way, anyone caught with a subwoofer in their car would be hauled out of it and beaten to a pulp, followed by their car being towed away and crushed to a cube.

ha ha Just because i enjoy music does not mean I go to the extremes you guys are thinking.

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"If I wanted a sound system I'd drive an escalade and fill it full of subwoofers"

Nothing bugs me more than being stopped at a red light and my mirrors are vibrating because some punk has his subwoofers cranked and all I can hear and feel is this " boom boom boom". If I had my way, anyone caught with a subwoofer in their car would be hauled out of it and beaten to a pulp, followed by their car being towed away and crushed to a cube.
I agree,, never mind stopping at a red light,, what's worse is having one of these idiots beside you in traffic, and you can't get away !!
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I agree,, never mind stopping at a red light,, what's worse is having one of these idiots beside you in traffic, and you can't get away !!

Don't worry they will be deaf by 40 wishing they had turned that noise down. If you really want to be angry, you have to direct it to the profiteering @#%^ who thought 1000 watts in a car was really necessary in the first place. Should be able to pull out a paintgun and rifle the offending motorist. Since, I'm living in my rental next to a stop sign where if it's not a stereo it's one of my Harley neighbor's drunken buddies driving with straight pipes, one never hears nature. The best part is the losers nearly running down other people's kids on harleys could not even afford one of these modest houses.
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Don't worry they will be deaf by 40 wishing they had turned that noise down. If you really want to be angry, you have to direct it to the profiteering @#%^ who thought 1000 watts in a car was really necessary in the first place. Should be able to pull out a paintgun and rifle the offending motorist. Since, I'm living in my rental next to a stop sign where if it's not a stereo it's one of my Harley neighbor's drunken buddies driving with straight pipes, one never hears nature. The best part is the losers nearly running down other people's kids on harleys could not even afford one of these modest houses.
Sorry to disappoint but a good sound system does not need to be loud to be enjoyed.

I wish it was just a matter of volume control or the amount of watts that would change the sorry sound system of the Boxster and make it come alive.
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Sorry to disappoint but a good sound system does not need to be loud to be enjoyed.

I wish it was just a matter of volume control or the amount of watts that would change the sorry sound system of the Boxster and make it come alive.
Who you schoolin? I have paradigm performance series towers in my house, all driven by Denon stuff from before they whored their good name out.
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I don't want everyone to drive a Boxster. Takes the fun out of being different.

I've pulled 400 miles out of a tank on my '04 2.7 before, usually get about 360+ these days.

Sure, I could have gotten a "better" car, but the realization finally came that I could afford one of these beauts. I remember first seeing a Boxster in the flesh in 1997/1998. I was in Sarasota (Longboat Key) with my family on vacation, and went to a marina to rent jet skis. There it was, one in Arena Red over saddle leather. I was awestruck on just how damned good that car looked.

Normally I drive my '95 E320 as the daily commuter, however since I lent the car to my partner (due to his older VW crapping out ), I've been doing the work-trip in the Box. More smiles.
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