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Originally Posted by Mrmaddbrad
Stop being so irrational.... Or don't take my advice, and turbo/supercharge your car and wait for it to blow up...
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First, chill. Second, I'm not the one asking about turbo and supercharging my car, so ease up there, too. I was not saying you're wrong, I said there was an oversight in what you said. I may not work in an auto shop, but that doesn't mean you know everything there is to know already, either, so don't take everything said in response to you as a personal shot.
I was referring to this more than anything else from your previous statemt:
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Originally Posted by mrmadbrad
Flats are so rare, that i don't think the 20lb spare tire is worth it..... I've never had one, just avoid pot holes....
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You don't think the 20lb spare is worth it, you've never had one, and your advice is just to avoid potholes? So unless I'm reading your statement wrong, you're saying you don't believe in having a spare because you can avoid all dangers to your tires, and you get the performance advantage of 20lb less in the car. And
I'm being irrational? A flat tire can happen anywhere and for many reasons, and I'm sure you've seen them all, from running over nails or glass, to potholes, to who knows what the heck you ran over that sliced your tire apart. I've seen a golf ball-sized rock somehow embed itself in the sidewall of a co-worker's tire and break the bead, so when he came out of work he found his vehicle sitting on a rear flat with a rock jutting out of his tire. He has a 65 mile commute...make sense to have a spare then?
I've picked up nails several times, thankfully none with the Porsche, yet. Yes, it's a very infrequent occurence considering how long I've been driving, so I won't disagree with you there. All the nails my tires have picked up have been local, within 10 miles of home, and even in my own driveway. It just happens, and it sucks every time because there's a chance it compromised the tire. I've just been lucky that only 2 required a patching of the tire. And if my tire did go flat, I'd much rather take less time jacking my car up and throwing on a spare to get home on my own power than wait around for AAA or some other "free" roadside service. To me that's just invonvenient when I have it right there in front of me to DIY.
For tracking and any other racing, you are 100% correct, and I'm not disputing that every pound lost will count there. But you didn't stop there. You also said toss the spare out when you're around town. How much of an advantage is your local spirited driving experience really going to see without the spare tire in front? As you said, we're talking around town, right? How usable is that 20lb weight loss even in Sunday traffic? It might net you a thousandth or two of a second less approaching that next red light/stop sign...aka negligible. But sure, in the name of spirited driving, which just can't be had with an extra 20 lbs sitting up front, let's just say your statement's completely rational.
I know that if I ever get a flat a mile from home I'll be glad I have my spare and jack ready to go.
Maybe you've got better roads where you live, but around here the roads are complete crap and only get worse as the winter comes and goes...you'd think someone mortared the streets sometimes (though we've got nothing on Boston, MA). I don't feel I need to be on a road trip to need my spare, because you never know what can happen on public roads.
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