thinking about selling my 03 S ?
 

I have been looking at the 2011 lancer evo mr touring brand new . i did have an evo 8 in the past and hated the cheapness about it but never had one issue with the car it was also a very fast and capable machine.
I am getting sick of all the boxster issues and cost of ownership. the worry of the engine blowing up every time i take it for a drive is ridiculous. I can get a loaded MR touring brand new with leather , nav and the more mature looking touring model , plus a twin clutch tranny for just under 40k . Have bulletproof performance and no worries at all . are any of you guy familar with the evo x and what are your thoughts on this vehicle ?

No car is bulletproof, but if you're constantly worried about the Boxster, it's probably time to move on. :cheers:

I had a 2009 until I got rear ended by a 19 year old the was texting and totaled out my car.

These cars are awesome and way under rated, I loved mine. It was fast and reliable.I naver had a problem with mine.

A frend of mine just got a 2010 and I was able to drive his and it is way faster then my 2009. I say go for it. :)

Evo X weights like a pig... much bigger and heavier than any of the previous Evos.

The interior quality is still not up to par with its asking price. I was going to buy the Evo X before my box... I sat in it and thought to myself "Why am I paying money for this?"

Evo is like an amateur porn star with bodykit & huge spolier whereas the Boxster is an classy woman. Your choice.

my biggest gripe with the evo is the cheap interior. nothing like my full leather boxster.

The EVO is a great car for $38,000 - but its not a $50,000 performance car that sells for under $40K.

Instead, its really a $25,000 econo car with $15,000 of upgrades in a turbo engine, sports suspension/wheels/tires, and performance exhaust. Yes, these are factory upgrades and not aftermarket bolt-ons, but there is no changing the econo box starting point.

As long as you know what you're getting and that's what you want, got for it.

What issues are you having with your S?

i have had no issues with the car , i actually love my boxster. just would like something brand new that i can afford . A new porsche is out of the question . love the 996 C4S , that will run about 40k for a nice 03 . with no warranty and has all the issues the boxster engine has. if you are going to buy at that price you should be able to drive with no worries . you don't get that with porsche.

Wow, some of the comments on here crack me up,Sorry guys but the Evo's 0-60 time is 4.7 Sec. and it is an AWD car, That is fast.

The car is fast and handles great it will embarrass a Boxster on and off the track. As far as it being a pig,There is a lot of cars that are heavier then my Boxster and there are ones that are lighter, like my Lotus Elise it weighs 1,850 lbs doe's that make my Boxster a pig?

Bottom line is it is a great car for the $$$ The new 2011 Mustang GT has a 0-60 time of 4.4 Sec and 1/4 mile time of 12.40 it is a lot faster then a 2011 Boxster S for $25k less then the Boxster S. Porsche can do better but thay do'nt.Shame on Porsche and the piece of $#!% M96 motor.

it's not that i don't love the porsches , i'm just starting to think i can not afford them. i bought my evo 8 brand new , that car would smoke my boxster in every aspect of performance. except for the the fun to drive category . The Boxster is by far one of the most fun cars to drive on the planet.

Wow how low has Porsche's reputation sank to consider "upgrading" to a Mitsu for peace of mind & reliability! I understand your thought process & I have thought about buying a EVO so I have a sedan to go with my boxster, bought a IS350 because of Lexus reputation & EVO depreciation. Just got IS350 back from dealer doing 3rd recall in 3 yrs., this time valvesprings recalled. I also agree with you that the Boxster is more fun to drive so I would just get your IMS bearing upgraded & enjoy the Boxster. It will be more cost effective to upgrade the car you have than to buy anything new. :)

Apples and oranges...I don't get it...I would understand as a daily driver, but as a replacement?

I'd rather have a broken Porsche than a well running Evo.

Because "Evo's 0-60 time is 4.7 Sec. and it is an AWD car, That is fast."

Fast doesn't mean it's enjoyable. Enjoyment is harder to measure and with the new generation kids raised on Playstation, cars like Nissan GT-R is desirable because it fixes all the mistakes you make with AWD & computers and you can brag to your friends how fast your car can do in the Ring.

think about it ? if you had to replace your Boxster with a reasonably priced performance oriented car what would you choose? The new 1 series M coupe looks good but that will be 50K . evo's , STI what else is there ?

I think the fun factor of the Boxster is damn hard to beat. Sure you can find faster, more gadgets, etc., but overall these cars are awesome and a total blast to drive.

I've been a die hard year round motorcyclist for over 40 years. I have 3 in my garage now. I have 2 Triumphs, a Rocket 3 and a Thunderbird Sport and then I have nice little Kawasaki 250 Duel Sport for putting around in the mountains.

Since I bought my first Boxster, I have been very bad to my motorcycles. They often sit in the garage crying and begging me to ride them. I do ride them, just not as much since the Boxster. I call my Boxster the 4 wheeled motorcycle. I now have 2 Boxsters. They are just that exciting and impressive to drive. I can imagine that only a good Ferrari would be more fun to drive then a Boxster. (Although, I hear Ferraris are a maintenance nightmere to own.)

I have also been thinking about getting rid of my 2007 S. As Jacabean said, I am also getting sick of all the Boxster issues and the cost of ownership. Jake has implied so many times (although not in the same exact words), that the engine is crap and it will fail either through IMS, RMS, water pump, or by just looking at it wrong. Looking at it wrong may not be the right words, because probably what disappoints me most about the Porsche is that you don't get to see the engine unless you tear half the car apart.

If it wasn't for the depreciation hit I would take ($70K to approx. $24K in trade, in less than 4 years), this car would be out of my garage. But I have really tended to this car over the past 4 years with meticulous detail and care; keeping it scratch free and maintenance serviced, that it has become part of the family. I especially like the interior quality and finish. So, what to do? I have never worried more about a car's dependability, until this one.

I do understand that no car/engine is bulletproof, but the cost of problems, or mistakes (if you do your own work) is much higher in a Porsche as compared to similar sport cars. There will be a change in vehicles for me, in the near future.

In the meantime, I do enjoy other forum members comments on what type of vehicle they own, or what they are planning to buy next. It'll give me a good basis for my replacement car. EVO? (never heard of it - I'll need to look it up).

Some of you guys are spending WAY too much time worrying.

The Boxster was just rated as one of the Top 10 Cars to Reach 200,000 Miles by Fortune Magazine based on 10 years of reliability data collected and analyzed by Consumer Reports. It beat out most Honda's and Toyota's.

Here is the opening statement:

"According to Consumer Reports' latest reliability survey, all cars and SUVs made by the Stuttgart, Germany-based automaker are rated average or better when it comes to longevity.

One car in particular--Porsche's $47,600 Boxster--stands above the rest. It has the best predicted reliability of any vehicle tested by Consumer Reports this year."

The prediction is based on the previous 10 years of owner survey data collected by Consumer Reports. This is about as good of an unbiased opinion that can be found.

Of course, this doesn't mean that engine (or transmission, or ...) failures don't occur, it just means that they aren't statistically significant (the number of failures is small compared to the total number of vehicles sold over the years).

The Evo is a GREAT engine, tranny, and suspension - but wrapped in Boy Racer body, and a cheap plastic interior. However, if you want to go fast for relative few bucks then it's a good fit. I've owned a few econo-racers and motorcycles in the last few years, and none has provided the overall satisfaction and driving enjoyment as my Boxster 00 S.

I'm also surprised about the amount of angst over "perceived" reliability issues. Maybe folks are reading too many sour grapes reports on the Net, and then extrapolating these potential problems to their own Boxsters ? I've had several issues with my S, but all is forgotten and forgiven when I hear the Porsche wail at 4-6 K RPM.

I suggest you hop off the fence, send me some pics and specs of your 03 s with a great move it immediately sale price attached and lets get on with making you an evo owner and myself a happy 03 s owner.

I grew up with an e type jag in my garage. For those that remember these nightmares it will come as no surprise that my fathers head was usually under the hood instead of behind the windshield. Seemed like a lot of work, but ohh how I remember that moment of sheer thrill when we cranked it up Sunday afternoons and pop said lets go burn up the Maryland countryside. Those were the finest times and thats what owning a real sports car gives IMO.

On the other hand 2 out of three of my children have had a souped up Honda with a suspension rim and tire package that cost a third of a buy in for an average used boxster. Two hondas later and I wont ride to the grocery store in them unless I am test driving them to insure they are suitable to make it back to campus. My youngest child likes hers just fine in a crowd of her peers, except when it breaks itself every other day as it is trying to be a sports car.

I feel I havent quite lived up to my fathers fine example by letting these kids of mine get it in their head that a sports car consists of rims tire and a chrome exhaust tip. I have to agree with the poster who said "apples and oranges".

I had an EVO VIII and it had the greatest driving experience of any car I've ever owned, including several Corvettes and the Boxster. I'm sorry I sold it. That car was magic it the way it communicated the road through the steering wheel and the seat.

I've never driven an EVO X and the reviews seem to indicate it's lost a little of the special feel that the previous generatioin cars had. If you keep the EVO stock it ought to be pretty reliable.

None of the financial reasoning I'm reading here makes any sense.

It sounds more like you don't want to keep the Boxster and are looking for something else. If that's the case, by all means, get rid of the Boxster.

But if you really do like the car and would like to keep it, but are simply afraid of possible future costs, do this instead: Take the $25K that you would otherwise be out-of-pocket on your Boxster-Evo swap and put it in the bank. Anytime you have an unexpected expense on the Boxster, take it out of that account.

Chance are, 5 years from now, you still have more than $20K in that account. Even if you are very unlucky (total engine failure), you will still have $10K left in that account. Financially, there is almost no possible way for you to come out ahead by buying the Evo.

+1 :dance:

An 04 VW R32 is one I can think of. Build quality on par with porsche or BMW and a total blast to drive. Really clean low mile R32's go for 17-20,000.

That was my reaction. Even after I read about it, I don't think I'd recognize one if it passed me on the street.

Remember when R&T put the cropped snaps "10 best cars" on their cover? And you could tell most of them because there was some distinctive styling cue on almost every desirable car?

If the EVO is considered an attractive car, then I despair for the future of the automobile.

Boxster (and Porsche probably in general) are not for the weak of heart.

With me it's not the IMS I'm worried about. It's all other problems.
I got the car cheap.. it passed PPI ("post" purchase inspection) with flying colors

However since then.. something always breaks.
It started with ignition switch, then engine mount, then 60K (fuel filter/belt), then one of the wheel bearings went out, now the second one is out, then AOS failed, then Power Steering pipe broke...
Now I have a vibration while driving (no ideea what it is)

I changed everything DIY (thanks to this site) I learned a lot.. but I spent a lot of time fixing it.

It's still worth it for me.. it was a dirt cheap car.. and I looooove it:)

Sasha

quote"The car is fast and handles great it will embarrass a Boxster on and off the track"

Doesn't matter how fast it is - it's still just a ricer. The embarrassment is being seen driving one. Nothing quite says "wannabe" like one of those crap cans.
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quote"I'd rather have a broken Porsche than a well running Evo."

+1 to that! :cheers:

Good thread, enjoyed this one. I'm like...what is an Evo (showing my age I guess) so I looked it up...oh I said one of those twangers the young men drive through my neighborhood while they drool over my porsche. Really not picking on the car, it sounds like fun if you want to track or just like raw a-s power. Again these are two totally different cars, and this stuff about being faster, heck if I drive my 2000 Boxster 'S' anywhere near the RPM I'm being told to, well I can't get out of 3rd gear without the cops chasing me. Me personally I couldn't sleep at night if I put $40k into an Evo, but for you it sounds like something you would really like...you should go for it, if your 03 'S' is nice I'm sure there are plently on this forum that would help you out :). Or if you still love your Boxster get things fixed, save a TON of money and have some peice of mind.

Heck I got my Boxster in early Nov, before I got it I couldn't wait to drive my 09 E350 each day, now I'm thinking of selling it...I always say wait two weeks and see how you feel. My Benz is for driving and the Boxster is for the joy of working on it, though it really doesn't need a thing done, it's just fun and easy.

Post some pics so us plastic window guys can drool over your glass window.

:cheers:

That's funny, I've heard the same said about Boxster drivers.

To each his own. A practical, well performing sedan that you can take to the track on the weekends and then use everyday isn't for everyone I guess.

i want to agree with what some have already said.

evo, who? i too had to look it up.

if you want a fast car and don't care about what you drive, then why not just buy a rice rocket..aka (civic with mod engine)

but as far as head turners...i can guarantee that most of the people out there will be wow'ed by you driving a porsche and won't car a rat's bottom that you drive a "fast" mitsu.

that's my opinion. never regretted getting my boxster and love it.

I hate to rain on your parade, but most people don't think "Wow, that's a cool car" they think "yup there goes another rich prick in his Porsche." So you bought the car to turn heads and impress people? I'm sorry.

hahaha. thanks adam. well you proved my point. i aint rich, but people think i am. ;)

Well, at least you're honest about it. Badge snobbery is out of control in this thread. I'm convinced if Porsche decided to put a crest on a turd somebody would buy it.

Crack me up...too funny...and all along I thought they were thinking there goes that old guy in mid life crisis in his old car. Good one made me laugh!

Wow! a lot of you guys do not know much about cars on the market today. I got crazy looks in my Evo 8. i still do all the same stuff in my boxster that i did in my evo but at half the speed and intensity . I get a lot of old hag bag cougers looking at me in my boxster too.
The Lancer Evolution is held in high regards throughout the world. The Evo X is a direct descendant of the world rally championship Evolution that dates back well over a decade. (does Tommi Makkinen ring a bell ) This cars 2.0 makes almost 300 h.p. and has one of the most sophisticated all wheel drive systems on the market and let me tell you they are built like tanks ! The guys on the Evo forums don't put 3,500 away for when their car breaks ,that amount will almost net you 400 h.p. at the wheels.
I hate to say it but a lot of you guys are posers in your boxsters because if you are a real car guy you would know what and evo is . you may not like it's looks but you would respect it's performance and history. The Evolution X is not your typical queer ricer.

Hey I gave you respect :cheers: , sounds like fun, ditch the Box and get a Rocket. Send us pics, I'm sure we'd like to see it, heck I'll probably notice them on the road now. My son is 20 and loves BMWs, I couldn't give him my Boxster if I tried (though he does love driving it :) ). I remember a couple of years ago I wouldn't have been interested in a Boxster, went to a Porsche gathering in NC Mountains last year and got hook...I was a Cayman guy at first.

Well, a few of them might think that to. ;) Which leads me to..................................

Jacabean, you have to remember your audience here. Most of the guys on the forum here are up in years and not younger men. The median age is probably somewhere around 55....much like your typical corvette owner. Anything that has good performance and aggressive looks and comes out of Japan is considered rice to them. Personally, if I had to own only 1 car the EVO would be the way to go. Much more practical than the Boxster, has impressive performance and is fun to drive. The Boxster makes a fine 2nd or third car, but if you're looking for a car that does it all then the EVO all the way. The only thing I don't like about the new EVO is I believe it can't be bought with a traditional manual trans.

Hey Adam, can I have your rims then when you get your EVO :) ...mine are the 2000 17 inch (turbo look I think)...don't quite do it for me. J/k.

Sure, would you buy them for $30,000 so I can get an EVO? :D Yeah the Carrera Light wheels are popular. Lots of people buy the knock offs....mine are real. :cool: