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Old 05-23-2005, 04:34 AM   #1
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Cayman Press Release and Wall Paper Photos

I've posted the photos here. -Mike

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Old 05-23-2005, 07:35 AM   #2
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Thanks for posting. Hard to tell how nice this will look for real.

Nice perf. data however.

Over $60 with options!!!!!

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Old 05-23-2005, 08:06 AM   #3
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'scuse me, got to step out for a few more lottery tickets.

The car looks great. The silver is good, red ought to be very good, too I think. Yellow - not so good. Black should be awesome.

Saw a sign on a 2004 Z06 Corvette at the track Saturday - it was "401-K" with the red bar through it (no 401-K's!). Good priority, & applies well here.
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are those the new Ceramic brakes?
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are those the new Ceramic brakes?
Yes... the ceramic brakes they are an option. The standard breaks are the same (or similar) to the Boxster S (red calipers).
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a guy in my Autocross club has the ceramics on his GT3. INSANELY EXPENSIVE TO FIX. I'd hate to get some gravel caught in there, I'd always be neurotic about such expensive brakes.
I was just telling my buddy who has a Standard Carrera that this Cayman will eventually phase out the 911 as the flagship Porsche. If the Carerra didn't have two mini rear seats Porsche would have phased out the 911 in place of a mide engine coupe long ago.
Which is why I strongly believe that Porsche is selling this Cayman(S?) at such a high price. Its a bit of strategic marketing, if you make it expensive people say ooooh ahhh look its the Cayman and not "look a Boxster with a hardtop and wait its actually $20K more!".
The foor door Porsche will appeal to all the 911 owners who never drive their P-Car's quickly or ever venture to track event. Which I'm thinking is a big part of the 911 customer base.
Hopefully the Cayman will be a new following of performance minded purists bla bla bla bla and we might actually start seeing it race competitively.

The car that saved Porsche is also the car that will take it to a new era.
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I was just telling my buddy who has a Standard Carrera that this Cayman will eventually phase out the 911 as the flagship Porsche.
I don't think the 911 will be phased out by the Cayman. I think the Cayman is a bit of a risky experiment. It's performance will definitely be right up there with the 911 but I think the 911 has such a strong identity that no other new Porsche could ever replace it.

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The foor door Porsche will appeal to all the 911 owners who never drive their P-Car's quickly or ever venture to track event. Which I'm thinking is a big part of the 911 customer base.
I think the Panamera (4 door Porsche due in 2008) will actaully appeal to a new segment outside the normal porsche buyer. I think it will also give the true (and rich) Porsche enthusiast no excuse not to have a garage full of Porsche cars. Before the Cayenne was approved Porsche did a study and found that the car sitting beside most Porsches in garages were high end SUV's. I bet the other car in the garage was a high end luxury sport sedan like an S-class of 7 series BMW. Just guessing but if Porsche's behavior runs consistant the Panamera is meant to fill a new buyer segment and fill the spot currently held by BMW and MB.

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BruceLee: I don't $60k is much of a wall to climb - plenty of prior Boxster-S models were banging on that door already back in 01.....


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I agree the 911 is a legendary brand.

But it can't go on in perpetuity. They've gone about as far as they can possibly go with the ages old 911.
Porsche must make plans for a new flag ship P-car. And I HIGHLY doubt it will be a rear engine configuration.
The Carerra GT was built for maximum performance as a dedicated racing car and
sure enough it wasn't rear engine like the SuperCup GT3 911's.

Will Porsche build yet another mid engine P-Car to replace the 911?
I really don't think they'll go through all the R&D to com up with another MR when the answer is right in front of them.

If the Cayman were just an experiment I think they would be pricing it much differently, it wouldn't be as expensive as a Standard Carrera!
They have big plans for this tweaked 'Boxster'.

Boy would I love to be a fly on the wall at Stugart Hdqt's.
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Boy would I love to be a fly on the wall at Stugart Hdqt's.
You and I definitely agree there. The other thing I think we would agree on is that no matter what happens we can be pretty sure that the cars coming out of Porsche will only be getting better and better no matter where the engine sits. They definitely seem to have their s*** together.

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