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Old 10-14-2010, 01:01 AM   #1
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What did I miss?

I am new to PPBB, and it looks like they are shuttting it down? Is this a temp thing? I enjoyed the board, and got a lot of useful info.

This is my first time on this site, hopefully it will be the same.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:45 AM   #2
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I don't think you can underestimate the burnout

that occurs when you try and run a public forum with thousands of users each wanting it their way. In this case "run" means everything from maintaining the hardware to providing the ISP to configuring the software to doing backups to answering users requests/emails/demands... And the fact that you are running it at a 90% loss so your family is funding it factors in. Where do you start and stop your commitment?

Anyone who operates in the public with competing demands on their time and fortune faces the same pressures. (As one who got 14 calls from his constituents the other day in addition to putting in 8 hours on the job site ...and I'm retired and a volunteer.) And probably has to face the family requests to share less of yourself with the hobby and more with them. (I'm so busy attending to other people's long neglected issues, I hadn't had the Boxster out in 2 weeks, for example.) So you ask yourself why you continue to do this. And when someone seems to challenge you...it is so easy to say "take this job and shove it...I don't need to take this".

Sometimes you rethink that emotional outburst but sometimes, on reflection, you feel that you feel better for stopping the pain.

While I much preferred the highly moderated politics free environment that existed when Chuck ran the board, I grew to tolerate Rob and Cecil's occasional forays into political opinion as a small price to pay for maintaining the active forum that it was...perhaps 5 to 10 times more active than any other I've found.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:13 AM   #3
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Thanks Mike!

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that occurs when you try and run a public forum with thousands of users each wanting it their way. In this case "run" means everything from maintaining the hardware to providing the ISP to configuring the software to doing backups to answering users requests/emails/demands... And the fact that you are running it at a 90% loss so your family is funding it factors in. Where do you start and stop your commitment?

Anyone who operates in the public with competing demands on their time and fortune faces the same pressures. (As one who got 14 calls from his constituents the other day in addition to putting in 8 hours on the job site ...and I'm retired and a volunteer.) And probably has to face the family requests to share less of yourself with the hobby and more with them. (I'm so busy attending to other people's long neglected issues, I hadn't had the Boxster out in 2 weeks, for example.) So you ask yourself why you continue to do this. And when someone seems to challenge you...it is so easy to say "take this job and shove it...I don't need to take this".

Sometimes you rethink that emotional outburst but sometimes, on reflection, you feel that you feel better for stopping the pain.

While I much preferred the highly moderated politics free environment that existed when Chuck ran the board, I grew to tolerate Rob and Cecil's occasional forays into political opinion as a small price to pay for maintaining the active forum that it was...perhaps 5 to 10 times more active than any other I've found.
Overall, it was a place for friends. I made so many through it and at BRBS. Something that many of the people who came and went there never seemed to get. As friends, the diversity of opinion was tolerated but attacks on your friends were treated harshly. How may sites on the Internet have you felt sad to see its passing?

Life moves on and there are other places on the Internet but the friends from there will persist with or without the board. Something that few other Internet sites can do. To my PPBB friends, hope to see you at BRBS.

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Old 10-14-2010, 04:25 AM   #4
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Well said..

Though I've never done it, running one of these boards has to be an all- consuming activity, if it's going to work properly.

Add in technical glitches, unhappy campers and your own money, the reasons for doing it can disappear quickly.

Having said that, Given the number of people that frequent the site, I'd be surprised if someone didn't pickup banner.



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that occurs when you try and run a public forum with thousands of users each wanting it their way. In this case "run" means everything from maintaining the hardware to providing the ISP to configuring the software to doing backups to answering users requests/emails/demands... And the fact that you are running it at a 90% loss so your family is funding it factors in. Where do you start and stop your commitment?

Anyone who operates in the public with competing demands on their time and fortune faces the same pressures. (As one who got 14 calls from his constituents the other day in addition to putting in 8 hours on the job site ...and I'm retired and a volunteer.) And probably has to face the family requests to share less of yourself with the hobby and more with them. (I'm so busy attending to other people's long neglected issues, I hadn't had the Boxster out in 2 weeks, for example.) So you ask yourself why you continue to do this. And when someone seems to challenge you...it is so easy to say "take this job and shove it...I don't need to take this".

Sometimes you rethink that emotional outburst but sometimes, on reflection, you feel that you feel better for stopping the pain.

While I much preferred the highly moderated politics free environment that existed when Chuck ran the board, I grew to tolerate Rob and Cecil's occasional forays into political opinion as a small price to pay for maintaining the active forum that it was...perhaps 5 to 10 times more active than any other I've found.
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Old 10-14-2010, 05:39 AM   #5
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Well said, Mike.

I will certainly miss the board as I made a lot of friends there - although I can't say I will miss the political discussions which often became nasty and personal. As one of the few resident liberals, I always tried to keep my political views civil and respectful of the views of others. That became increasingly difficult and I found myself just biting my tongue and hitting the delete key more and more. I guess it is not surprising that the vast majority of folks on a Porsche board would be of the more conservative persuasion.

I know Allegator is getting a lot of flack for this - but lets face it - Allegator had absolutely no power to shut down the board - I think Rob was just looking for a reason to get out of what had become a very frustrating and possibly unrewarding job for him.

It would be great if someone would take over the board or provide something similar - however, if that happens, I would hope that the political discourse could either be eliminated or moved to a separate forum on the board.

Cheers - hope to see some of my old friends here soon (and at BRBS).

mike (Lawdevil)

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that occurs when you try and run a public forum with thousands of users each wanting it their way. In this case "run" means everything from maintaining the hardware to providing the ISP to configuring the software to doing backups to answering users requests/emails/demands... ....

Sometimes you rethink that emotional outburst but sometimes, on reflection, you feel that you feel better for stopping the pain.

While I much preferred the highly moderated politics free environment that existed when Chuck ran the board, I grew to tolerate Rob and Cecil's occasional forays into political opinion as a small price to pay for maintaining the active forum that it was...perhaps 5 to 10 times more active than any other I've found.
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