08-19-2010, 10:25 AM
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Nice ride!
PSM, commonly referred to as 'Please Save Me' is a good thing for the average driver to have, though as mentioned, nothing beats a DE or driving course. Educating the Driver is almost always the best control feature you can add, plus it's portable!
One thing not mentioned is Tires. These are what actually grip the road and if yours are worn or even several years old, either replace them, or keep the car way below it's theoretical limits. Tires harden with age and also lose tread seriously compromising their grip. Sure, tires for these cars can be expensive, but compared to bent sheetmetal or people, they're much cheaper.
Cheers!
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08-19-2010, 12:30 PM
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The only way to know is experiment a bit, but use extreme caution, and do it on a track, or at least far from other motorists, pedestrians, and solid objects to hit. ( and police)
My thoughts, based on my '06 2.7 w/ PSM, your '01 may be slightly different. I find the PSM very intrusive in slow speed corners, 1st and 2nd gear, such as pulling out of a stop street with heavy throttle application. It cuts the throttle much too early, though this is great if your not paying attention, and for cold conditions with summer tires.
With PSM off: with a short wheelbase, and lots of rear traction, when you do get the rear to step out, you have to have quick hands, while avoiding over-correction. The most important part is to also take that correction out quickly. If you leave in opposite lock too long, it will snap back with a vengence, and lead to an out-of-control tank-slapper!
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08-20-2010, 03:49 AM
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Thanks for all the great replies, interesting to read... I fully intend to try a track day or similar - I'd like to see how the car handles on the limit - and over it - so i know what to expect...
I've had a few rear wheel drive cars, some like the MX5 was incredibly controllable when the rear broke away, others coulkd easily snap and send you into a 180o spin! I dont intend to find out the hard way on the roads!
Anyone reccommend a track day, or course which would be good to attend?
Thanks!
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08-20-2010, 08:16 AM
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I was going to mention tires too. It's been covered, so I won't.
You might want to look into doing some autocross too. I've found that autocrossing my Boxster puts me at the limit on almost every corner, where at the track I'm a bit more reserved about pushing it to the absolute limit. If you screw up in autocross, you drive over some cones and blow your lap. If you screw up on the track, it could screw up your car. However, you will LOVE your car on the track.
Please stop 4-wheel drifting on the street. Real life is not "The Fast and the Furious."
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08-20-2010, 11:16 AM
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I drove my car in the snow in an open parking lot when I first got it. I was very impressed by how predictably the car would slide. I've been comfortable ever since.
Not sure that is an option for you in the UK.
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08-20-2010, 11:28 AM
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There is a highway exit ramp near my house that I take almost everyday. It has a declining radius. It's a terribly akward turn that I haven't figured out how to handle gracefully yet. But half the fun is trying something new each time (brake-don't brake, 2nd gear early, 3rd gear the whole way, etc.).
Good luck with your car.
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08-20-2010, 05:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMagica
Anyone reccommend a track day, or course which would be good to attend?
Thanks!
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If you are in the UK, which I think you are, Bedford would be the best place for you. It's purpose built for track days with loads of run off - almost (but not quite!) impossible to stack you car there. Do a full day on the long GT circuit. I recommend booking through:
www.focusedevents.com
There are also a number of track days that use old airfields. These again are very safe, but driving around cones / lines is not as satisfying as a proper track. Also, airfields have very harsh surfaces and will eat your tyres super fast.
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08-20-2010, 08:50 PM
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It has been said a couple of times already, but I think the importance of tyres cannot be stressed enough.
My Box S does not have TC, and for the life of me I cannot understand how anyone would need it (except in snow or icy roads). Of course it is possible to stop at a T-junction, dial up 4k rpm, turn the wheel and drop the clutch. Why anyone would do this to their beloved Porsche is beyond me? If your tyres are good, and suspension is in sound order, it is really very difficult to get these cars out of shape.
On the track it is a different story, but anyone pushing these cars on the street to induce a 4 wheel slide is just wreckless, and inducing a rear wheel tailslide is just idiotic.
Please drive sensibly people.
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08-21-2010, 01:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel R
inducing a rear wheel tailslide is just idiotic.
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I think that's a bit strong. It totally depends on factors including your skill level and road conditions. For most people most of the time, it's a bad idea. But in the right conditions it can be safe and fun to play with the rear a little and at no risk to oneself or others.
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