The torch has passed...

[Quickurt]

If you don't stay on this forum and remain our friend, we'll not name any of OUR children Lil Bastard, either!!
It's always a sad day watching a loved one leave.
My 86 year old mother moved to West Virginia yesterday.
I can't imagine what it would be like to have to sell my Boxster!

[Burg Boxster]

Congrats on the sale of your Boxster Jim...

[pothole]

Originally Posted by Lil bastard

The 964 is a great car. It has the largest production air-cooled engine at 3.6L, it also is the last of the 'true' 911's. The doors and fenders will bolt right up to a '66, so the lineage is there, unlike the 993 which is actually a transition series to the 996.

Yeah, not at all convinced of that. The 993 is just an extensively revised variant of the original 911. It really has nothing to do with the 996, which is genuinely a new architecture. Like all the air-cooled 911s, the 993 retains the heavy engineering of the original. I wouldn't like to have to choose between a 964 and a 993, love them both. As for the 996, well, it ain't quite the same, is it?

Anyway, love your new ride, I'm a huge fan of 964s.

[Lil bastard]

Originally Posted by SeanZ4

Are those the correct wheels for this car? Also, the wheel center caps look fake to me...too bright...

sean

They are likely Turbo II wheels, genuine Porsche but incorrect, same with the center caps.

OEM Wheels were the 16" Design 90 wheels as are on my car. Optional were the Turbo Cup wheels in 17". BBS, HRE and Kineses were also optional non-porsche wheels. The Design 90 wheels are actually the lightest and strongest of the bunch.

The center caps of the era have a much more 'hand painted' look to them than those currently available.

For 1990 only, the OEM Tire supplier was BF Goodrich with the Comp TA Z4. These were on my car when I bought it, which I drove up from FL on and then promptly changed them as two had delaminated internally on the trip home being 20 yrs. old and all. In keeping with originality (as much as possible), I replaced them with BF Goodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S tires which I'm really pleased with.

Cheers!

[Lil bastard]

Originally Posted by pothole

Yeah, not at all convinced of that. The 993 is just an extensively revised variant of the original 911. It really has nothing to do with the 996, which is genuinely a new architecture. Like all the air-cooled 911s, the 993 retains the heavy engineering of the original. I wouldn't like to have to choose between a 964 and a 993, love them both. As for the 996, well, it ain't quite the same, is it?

Anyway, love your new ride, I'm a huge fan of 964s.

The 993 uses the same M64 motor as the 964, except with redesigned heads (w/ hydraulic lifters) and a hot film MAF similar to the 996 unlike the old cantilevered door air meter of the 964 - a throwback to K-jetronic.

The 993 is larger dimensionally, heavier, has different fenders, headlights, doors, a much more 'raked' windshield. Many of it's parts were shared with the 986 and 996.

It is a much more 'fluid' design and IMHO quite striking, but it is definitely not in the orig. 911 lineage. I would have no objection to owning a 993 at all, but I see it as a different car, one more in keeping with Porsche's future than it's past. I have the opposite view of the 964.

The 964 differs mechanically from the earlier 911's in that it's the first w/ all-wheel drive, 1st to have coil springs rather than torsion bars, 1st to have power steering, 1st to have ABS brakes. But dimensionally, it is the same and shares the same body panels as earlier cars, so you could actually make the arguement that the SC series is really the last of the 911's considering body/mechanical together and be on firm ground.

Cheers!

[pothole]

Originally Posted by Lil bastard

The 993 is larger dimensionally, heavier, has different fenders, headlights, doors, a much more 'raked' windshield. Many of it's parts were shared with the 986 and 996.

Sorry old chap, but much of that absolutely is not true. The 993 windshield is identical, and that's because the core of the car is carried over from the previous generation. Put simply, the 993 is a facelift model, not a new model:




Likewise, the doors are only slightly tweaked for new handles. Yes, the fenders and lights are new, but new fenders and lights maketh not a new car. As for sharing parts with the 986 / 996, yes there are some minor bits shared - but nothing of consequence. The 986 / 996 is a clean break with all new chassis and powertrains unrelated to the 993, whereas the 993 is an upgraded version of an existing car.

Personally, I'd say the rear suspension was the biggest change that came with the 993. But the key thing about the 993 is that it's a revised version of the original 911 and benefits from a quality of engineering that you don't get with the 986 / 996 onwards.

I'm not arguing that the 993 is better than the 964 or anything silly like that. But it's very much the last of the air-cooled models based on the original 911 architecture and not a half way house or transitional car.