05-27-2010, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky
A smooth & normal idle would rule out most electrical issues. Could still be the fuel pump/pressure.
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when the MAF was disconnected; it ran rich (it smelled of gas and couldn't easily maintain idle). Does that help?
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05-27-2010, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Oaktown 986
when the MAF was disconnected; it ran rich (it smelled of gas and couldn't easily maintain idle). Does that help?
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When you say it won't rev beyond 3k, is this while driving or just sitting in your driveway in neutral?
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05-27-2010, 05:40 PM
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When you say it won't rev beyond 3k, is this while driving or just sitting in your driveway in neutral?
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driveway in neutral; i drove it a couple days ago, and it wasn't pleasant. now in neutral it's barely getting beyond 1500. ugh.
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1999 Porsche Boxster 5 Spd
Stock, with GAHH A5 Glass top.
Previous Toys:
2005 RX-8, RIP
1989 GTA, 5 Speed, Procharger Supercharger and 2 Core Intercooler, 1 3/4" headers, 3" Flomaster Exhaust, cat-delete, digital ignition, bigger fuel injectors
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05-27-2010, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Oaktown 986
driveway in neutral; i drove it a couple days ago, and it wasn't pleasant. now in neutral it's barely getting beyond 1500. ugh.
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Since you've tried the obvious fixes, I really think you need to look at fuel delivery. You should be able to easily test pressure off one of the fuel rails. Most auto parts stores sell the proper pressure gauge. Just be careful since you are dealing with gasoline... don't want you starting a fire! Be prepared for some spillage when you remove the cap from the test port.
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05-28-2010, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucky
Since you've tried the obvious fixes, I really think you need to look at fuel delivery. You should be able to easily test pressure off one of the fuel rails. Most auto parts stores sell the proper pressure gauge. Just be careful since you are dealing with gasoline... don't want you starting a fire! Be prepared for some spillage when you remove the cap from the test port.
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Do you think it's worthwhile to pop for a new MAF while I'm picking up a fuel pressure gauge? I've got 93k give or take, and it's a wear item. Also, where is the fuel rail? I've plugged fuel pressure gauges into Schrader valves before on SB Chevy motors, but not on a Porsche....
Jon
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1999 Porsche Boxster 5 Spd
Stock, with GAHH A5 Glass top.
Previous Toys:
2005 RX-8, RIP
1989 GTA, 5 Speed, Procharger Supercharger and 2 Core Intercooler, 1 3/4" headers, 3" Flomaster Exhaust, cat-delete, digital ignition, bigger fuel injectors
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05-28-2010, 06:50 AM
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OK, signal implausible codes mean you have an open circuit in all the sensors listed. Could be a damaged wire harness, failed sensors or failed DME. These codes definitely indicate a car that runs like poo.
Advice: Stop driving/running the car and isolate and test every listed sensor. Maybe a rodent got in there and chewed things up or a harness got too close to a shiny new set of headers and melted. If you don't know how to do this process, find a good local indy who does. Continuing to run the car might just kill it.
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05-28-2010, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Topless
OK, signal implausible codes mean you have an open circuit in all the sensors listed. Could be a damaged wire harness, failed sensors or failed DME. These codes definitely indicate a car that runs like poo.
Advice: Stop driving/running the car and isolate and test every listed sensor. Maybe a rodent got in there and chewed things up or a harness got too close to a shiny new set of headers and melted. If you don't know how to do this process, find a good local indy who does. Continuing to run the car might just kill it.
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Ok, sounds like the time is right to take it in. I haven't been driving it, just starting it for a minute in the driveway after replacing the O2 sensors, and after swapping in/cleaning the MAF. I'll keep everyone posted. I'll save the MAF replacement for another date. It's easy enough to replace, and I'm sure it'll come due soon.
Edit: I spoke with the local Porsche indy nearby ( http://abauer.com/), and he agreed it's probably damaged wiring, MAF, or added the possibility that it's a fuel pump. I get off work at 3 PM daily (east coast hours, baby) so he agreed to take me into the shop and diagnose it while I'm present. I told him what i've done thus far (fuel filter, precat O2's, cleaned the MAF, disco'd the MAF, new spark plugs, tubes, o rings, new air filter) and he tried to, over the phone, narrow it down, but we agreed it's just time to bring it in.
I'll update y'all tonight with his findings, then we'll see what's going to be the solution.
J
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1999 Porsche Boxster 5 Spd
Stock, with GAHH A5 Glass top.
Previous Toys:
2005 RX-8, RIP
1989 GTA, 5 Speed, Procharger Supercharger and 2 Core Intercooler, 1 3/4" headers, 3" Flomaster Exhaust, cat-delete, digital ignition, bigger fuel injectors
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