04 550?

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by ChrisZang

A Porsche 550?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_550

I thought they go for up to a Million
Are you talking about a Beck replica?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Boxster#550_Spyder_50th_Anniversary_Editio n

[gschotland]

kbb.com says an '04 S w/19k mi is worth ~$19k trade in, ~$22k private party. Does anyone really think a "rare" 550 is worth more than a 10% premium? Even that much seems wishful. I'd say maybe +5%.

I've found eBay to be very good gauge of where the market is. Look at closed auctions. Not many cars sell, but looking at where the bidding stopped will quickly give you a good picture.

If you can't take it home for $22k I'd walk. There's always another one.

[jacabean]

honestly , i don't think this guy will even consider 22k offer. I did look at another car yesterday an 05 S with 45k on it. it has full leather , power seats and great condition. the color is a little funny , carmen red. asking 27,900 from a dealer. this might be a better option.

The SE 550 is more than a well optioned boxster S. It has options not available on other boxsters such as GT Silver Metallic paint(the same color as the car-show version of the Carrera GT supercar), Cocoa dark brown all leather interior, Seal Gray 911 wheels and special exhaust are just a few.

Then it is optioned to the hilt.

It all depends on what you want. It is the most expensive 986. When you use services such as kbb - may sure you choose the aniversary option - usually 3000 premuim over other boxster S's. Production run of just 1953 cars.

[jacabean]

does not mean it's worth 35,000. 05 987 S exceeds this car in every aspect so their is no point to this car at that price. when you can get A loaded 987 s with 10K on them all day long for 35 grand.
Why bother?

"does not mean it's worth 35,000. 05 987 S exceeds this car in every aspect so their is no point to this car at that price. when you can get A loaded 987 s with 10K on them all day long for 35 grand.
Why bother?"

I said check kbb for price. If you like the ordinary - sure buy the 987S

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by pboxstercar

"does not mean it's worth 35,000. 05 987 S exceeds this car in every aspect so their is no point to this car at that price. when you can get A loaded 987 s with 10K on them all day long for 35 grand.
Why bother?"

I said check kbb for price. If you like the ordinary - sure buy the 987S

Ordinary Porsche, oxymoron.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by jacabean

honestly , i don't think this guy will even consider 22k offer. I did look at another car yesterday an 05 S with 45k on it. it has full leather , power seats and great condition. the color is a little funny , carmen red. asking 27,900 from a dealer. this might be a better option.

I like to hear about what folks think when they drive both the 986 and 987. So far, besides power, it doesn't sound like there's much of a difference.

[Quickurt]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

I like to hear about what folks think when they drive both the 986 and 987. So far, besides power, it doesn't sound like there's much of a difference.

I think there's quite a difference. I drove four different 986 before driving the first 987, all within about two months and two of the 986, one standard, one S, I had for full weekends. Because of a long term relationship with my local dealer, I was also able to take my 987 for a full weekend before purchasing it. It did not go back on the lot!
As a non-go-on- forever post, I will have to say sophistication is the main difference. Everything from cabin layout, to pedal placement to shift mechanism to top operation to resposiveness of the engine, and on and on and on, was far superior, in MY OPINION than the 986. In some respects, I can say the 986 may be more of a purists sports car than the 987 and if I were tracking the car, I may have gone a different direction (bought a Lotus!! ). The 986 seems to have more steering feedback, but that also gets old on lengthy trips.
But there are considerable differences between the two generations.

[mts]

I've got one of those models and really enjoy it. It really is just a well optioned Boxster S, but since it has just about every option that came on the 986, that's worth some premium if you are an option whore like I am.....especially since Porsche charges so much for each option. If you aren't, I wouldn't even consider a 550 and look at something else. My car has 20k miles on it now and I paid $34k for it about 3 years ago. His asking price of $35k is a bit steep, but perhaps he only wants to sell it if he can get a premium price for it? There's nothing wrong with that, if he can't get it, he keeps it or lowers his price. In the mean time a little time searching and you'll find other 550's available.

If you want to pay $22k for one, good luck you'll probably need to look at a much higher mileage example to get in that range, or find someone really desperate to sell as I haven't seen any go that low before. You never know. However, regardless of how high the asking price is, anytime you offer someone almost 40% under their asking price and get told to go pound sand......you should expect that response.....and probably deserve it.

Look at the pics of the two cars below - I prefer the 986 rounder shape. If I was going to buy a 987 it would have to be a 2009 or 2010 with PDK and launch control.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by mts

His asking price of $35k is a bit steep, but perhaps he only wants to sell it if he can get a premium price for it? There's nothing wrong with that, if he can't get it, he keeps it or lowers his price.

However, regardless of how high the asking price is, anytime you offer someone almost 40% under their asking price and get told to go pound sand......you should expect that response.....and probably deserve it.

That's QUIET a premium alright. It sounds to me like he shouldn't be surprised that informed buyers are giving him a bit of a reality check as well. It works both ways I guess.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by Quickurt

I think there's quite a difference. I drove four different 986 before driving the first 987, all within about two months and two of the 986, one standard, one S, I had for full weekends. Because of a long term relationship with my local dealer, I was also able to take my 987 for a full weekend before purchasing it. It did not go back on the lot!
As a non-go-on- forever post, I will have to say sophistication is the main difference. Everything from cabin layout, to pedal placement to shift mechanism to top operation to resposiveness of the engine, and on and on and on, was far superior, in MY OPINION than the 986. In some respects, I can say the 986 may be more of a purists sports car than the 987 and if I were tracking the car, I may have gone a different direction (bought a Lotus!! ). The 986 seems to have more steering feedback, but that also gets old on lengthy trips.
But there are considerable differences between the two generations.

So would you say the 987 is more refined and dare I say, softer, than the 986?

[Boxtaboy]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

So would you say the 987 is more refined and dare I say, softer, than the 986?

I own a 2.7L 986, but have driven a 2.5L 986, 3.2 986S, 3.4 converted 986, 3.2L 987S and 3.4 987S, and my experience is that the 986 model cars do ride rougher and feel less refined overall, but also lean more in corners than the 987. The 987 feels more refined and stable when pushed, but it is true that they offer a bit more numb steering feel than the 986. That didn't bother me, as the more stable feel in transitions made up for the slight lack of steering feel for me. The 986 feels a bit more tossable and light.

I was not impressed much by the power of the 3.2 986S or 3.2 987S, but the 3.4L 987S was really quick feeling, and pretty much a perfect package. The 3.4L coverted 986 was nice in the pickup department, but still didn't feel as fast and refined as the 3.4L 987S. Overall, I would say the 987 both inside and out, is an improved version of the 986, although styling is a personal preference. I really like the curves of the 986, but the newest 987 facelift is mighty nice too.