10-08-2009, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by blue2000s
Apparently, high boost and more fuel more than makes up for the difference in energy content.
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Patience must be running dry but, my options now that I know of for 93 oct (what the cblower was set up for) are
100 oct race fuel ------------------------------------------------$5-6 per gal
114 oct. toulene (already about 15% in pump fuel)------$20/gallon
115 (?) ethanol---------------------------------------------------$10/gallon
Bang for buck aside, I wonder what is easiest on the motor. And, what exactly is susceptible to deterioration with ethanol.
Regards, PK
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10-08-2009, 11:56 AM
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Porscheectomy
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Originally Posted by pk2
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Patience must be running dry but, my options now that I know of for 93 oct (what the cblower was set up for) are
100 oct race fuel ------------------------------------------------$5-6 per gal
114 oct. toulene (already about 15% in pump fuel)------$20/gallon
115 (?) ethanol---------------------------------------------------$10/gallon
Bang for buck aside, I wonder what is easiest on the motor. And, what exactly is susceptible to deterioration with ethanol.
Regards, PK
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E100 is about 113 octane. If your goal is to hit 93 octane, using 22/78 race/pump gas your cost is at about 3.70/gal if you assume pump 91 is 3.00/gal.
9/91 toulene/pump is 4.50/gal
9/91 E100/pump is about 3.63/gal
This is just to get you to a safe octane rating. As we noted before, race gas will have more energy content than E100, so you'll make more power (and wear) on the race gas.
Last edited by blue2000s; 10-08-2009 at 11:59 AM.
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10-08-2009, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by blue2000s
E100 is about 113 octane. If your goal is to hit 93 octane, using 22/78 race/pump gas your cost is at about 3.70/gal if you assume pump 91 is 3.00/gal.
9/91 toulene/pump is 4.50/gal
9/91 E100/pump is about 3.63/gal
This is just to get you to a safe octane rating. As we noted before, race gas will have more energy content than E100, so you'll make more power (and wear) on the race gas.
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Thanks as always BLUE200OS,
Nice of you doing the arithmetic, I flunked that class. Pretty much my how I've been running it the majority of the time (8:2 piump). I usually wind up using toluene in pinch. It's a lot easier to find, in most hardware stores, than race fuel.
Ive got a custom made h2o/methanol injection sittimg on a shelf. Sure to relieve any angst with an effective octane well over 100 oct. on any grade pf fuel(from what I understand). Dont quite understand it but, Ive heard of people claiming the equivalent.118 on a 50/50 meth h20 mix, a little less with straight h20.
Regards. PK
Last edited by pk2; 10-09-2009 at 08:44 AM.
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10-09-2009, 01:39 AM
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Does it make any sense to put in a gallon or two of race fuel with with every tank of high test? I have also noted that my mileage goes down (and maybe performance, hard to tell) with ethanol in the mix. BTW, I did a couple of dyno runs with my 2.7L and picked up a few HP running straight race fuel, that was an expensive, but fun experiement....
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10-09-2009, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by edevlin
Does it make any sense to put in a gallon or two of race fuel with with every tank of high test? I have also noted that my mileage goes down (and maybe performance, hard to tell) with ethanol in the mix. BTW, I did a couple of dyno runs with my 2.7L and picked up a few HP running straight race fuel, that was an expensive, but fun experiement....
Ed

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Well, you still have the same amount of ethanol which was what this thread was about, and for reasons I forget, till I hijacked. But good question, according to blue-s the ethanol just helps at detonation, race fuel should pack the rest of the energy on down the the hole, which ethanol won't...
On the other hand, why bother, your car shouldn't be noticeably faster with anything over 93 high test. 91oct and 2 gallons of 1000 should give every thin the alcohol dose plus the added punch...be like real 83 oct.
pk
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