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Old 09-20-2009, 08:40 AM   #1
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2003 Boxster S with NEW engine

Does it make sens that a 2003 Boxster S replaced a NEW engine by Porsche DEALER under warranty at 2007 with 20,000 miles because of oil leak (famous seal problem)?
Is it safe to buy a car in such condition with 29,000 miles now.
The dealer will replace the engine instead of a new seal?
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It was likely an example of an engine where the updated rear main seal wouldn't have fixed the problem of a drooping crankshaft carrier. The factory go/no go gauge for seal replacement versus engine replacement would have been used to determine that the engine was not repairable. The replacement engine likely is the latest generation, with the larger IMS bearing. I wouldn't have any concern about buying this car from what you have posted.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:22 AM   #3
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Agree with cnavarro, wouldn't bother me a bit.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:30 AM   #4
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Old 09-20-2009, 02:00 PM   #5
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I bet the price is right - I wouldn't hesitate - but I would get a pre-purchase inspection.

What's not to love about a motor with only 9K miles on it?
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:18 AM   #6
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When you say, "is it safe?" what do you mean?

Having a new engine is generally a pretty good thing (assuming you verify that it really is new).

Does it mean that it could not happen again?

No. That is why they have after market warranties. If you are really concerned, check that route out.


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Old 09-29-2009, 09:33 AM   #7
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Thanks to everyone. Got the car and one more happy Porsche Boxster owner.
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It was likely an example of an engine where the updated rear main seal wouldn't have fixed the problem of a drooping crankshaft carrier. The factory go/no go gauge for seal replacement versus engine replacement would have been used to determine that the engine was not repairable. The replacement engine likely is the latest generation, with the larger IMS bearing. I wouldn't have any concern about buying this car from what you have posted.
Charles,

When did Porsche start using a larger IMS bearing? I ask because my car had it's engine replaced in May of 2005 and I'm hoping it has the updated bearing.
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I would think the existing problems will still be in the new engine replacement. These engines are all built at the same time and a certain amount are set aside as replacements as per some Six Sigma curve. Once a problem is discovered, these engines would not be sent back for a retro fix as it would be an additional cost that the company is not willing to cover. Imagine what the cost of the replacement engine would cost if they did. All that happens is the crated motor is shipped to the dealer to replace the damaged one and hopefully it may or may not have the same issue. If it does it would be outside the warranty period.

I had a choice of either a new crated motor or getting the one I have rebuilt (too much oil by PO) when I bought the car. I sent it out to be rebuilt and the shop uses the latest improved parts. This will ensure that existing issues are delt with with the latest upgrades. In my case there is a substantial savings between rebuilt VS crated factory (can you say $6,000 CDN ). Most industries behave in the same manner, cheaper to NOT recall the motor and rebuild it.
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Wow, very nice! Looks really sharp!
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Old 10-11-2009, 03:43 PM   #14
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"18" Turbo look wheels" AKA Carrera Lites? From the angle that's what they look like to me. That is one sweet black Box you have there though.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:45 AM   #15
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Jaxonalden, yes, it is just like yours. I like the RED, looks very sexy and my BLACK definitely looks cool
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Yeah those aren't Turbo Looks, those are Carrera Lights. Nice looking Boxster btw!
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