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Jeannot 02-23-2005 02:28 AM

here goes the Cayman...
 
http://www2.porsche.com/cayman/pcgb.asp

anybody else angry that they put a better engine in the 'boxster coupe' than in the boxster itself?

QporscheQ 02-23-2005 05:33 AM

dumb name . . . 295Hp

Brucelee 02-23-2005 07:08 AM

Amazingly dumb name. Kind of like naming a SUV after a spice? :rolleyes:

spgribben007 02-23-2005 07:29 AM

Why did Porsche name a car after a set of islands? Dumb.

RandallNeighbour 02-23-2005 07:34 AM

In German, it means "faster than a speeding bullet"

...it's so sad that much is lost in cultural translations.

Jeannot 02-23-2005 07:38 AM

ok, but this is the name...you can debadge it if you want, but the 3.4L engine...hmmh...I really wonder. If I had a 987S on order, I'd cancel it until it is clear what they will do with their product lines.
What do you guys think?

wetstuff 02-23-2005 08:01 AM

I'm surprised at you guys?! They could have suffered the fate of once proud SAAB and be absorbed by the giant slug.. The only way to move forward is to keep firing new product into the market. What is it: there were 75 models in the late '80's and 300 available now? You gotta keep your feet moving...

...and Hell, you can go get 50hp if you think you need it. They're not emasculating me making a heavier car with more power. I would have liked a 911 but my wife didn't go to the right medical school. (same answer when it comes to a big house..)

I'm just tickled pink they didn't make a '97 Box look like a '87 when they did the 987. I think we picked good parents - on this deal anyway.

Jim

Lux 02-23-2005 01:23 PM

Cayman is a terribly stupid name. But the car itself is very exciting. It'll take the Boxster out of the shadows of the 911.

I don't think Porsche can hold out much longer on keeping back the hp for the Boxster. If rumour is reality, the Cayman S will come with a sticker of around $65K :mad: That's more for a hardtop than the ragtop version of the car. I can't think of any other manufacturer that does this.

However, I think it'll allow Porsche to drop the 3.4L in the Boxster in a year or so and charge even more than $65K. So even if the Boxster takes away some 911 sales, the profits will still be built in, so to speak.

UKBXSTR 02-23-2005 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeannot
http://www2.porsche.com/cayman/pcgb.asp

anybody else angry that they put a better engine in the 'boxster coupe' than in the boxster itself?


not really - they had to do something will all those rebuilt 996 3.4 litre failures.

Jeannot 02-23-2005 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKBXSTR
not really - they had to do something will all those rebuilt 996 3.4 litre failures.

so you think it is the same engine generation as the 98' 996s? surely they have put variocam+ on it but now. But then why did it loose 5hp in the process? marketing to protect the old lady 911?

It will be interesting to see what happens to this car.
I personally bought the boxster for the cabrio. I don't see myself going for the Cayman when a 911 is only few thousands away from the money Porsche is asking for this newborn...

Pilot2519j 02-23-2005 04:21 PM

Where is the beef here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QporscheQ
dumb name . . . 295Hp

Q,
Where did you read it is 295 and the engine size? I looked at the video which almost drove insane and I did not hear anything regarding the engine.

QporscheQ 02-23-2005 04:23 PM

I started clicking things and more audio kept playing. Eventually the voice said "295 HP".

After the video is finished a bunch of words will come aross the screen. Click the word "Passion" when it appears.

Perfectlap 02-23-2005 04:34 PM

http://store1.yimg.com/I/eagleday_1834_41294041

hmmm I like the side profile. NOICE...

QporscheQ 02-23-2005 04:37 PM

Porsche Press Release:



The Cayman is Slotted Between the Carrera and the Boxster

ATLANTA, February 23, 2005 Porsche will be expanding its range of vehicles with the introduction of a new sports car based on the Boxster series in the 2006 model year. Positioned and priced between the 911 Carrera and the Boxster S, the new two-seat sports car, named the Cayman S, is aggressively styled to reflect its enhanced handling and more powerful engine. At the same time, highly efficient space utilization makes it one of the most practical sports cars in its class.

The Cayman S joins the Carrera, Boxster, and Cayenne, model designations that are already rich in tradition. It derives its name from the smallest of crocodiles, the caiman, which is known to be swift and nimble. With its more powerful 295 bhp, 3.4-liter, six-cylinder boxer engine mounted in the middle of its chassis, the new fixed-roof model reflects the strength and agility of its namesake perfectly and is capable of providing driving pleasure in its purest form.

Brucelee 02-23-2005 05:05 PM

Ok, I am buying a carrera why?

This is a coupe, looks great like a Porsche should and is mid-engined. Why would I buy a base or even an S carerra?

Hmmmm! This seems like cannibalism to me!

JonnyBGood 02-23-2005 05:08 PM

I've got to ask this... Cayman is the island. On the Porsche web site, they are featuring a bunch of crocodiles which are CAIMAN crocodiles. Am I stupid here? Or did Porsche make a huge marketing mistake?

Shouldn't someone own a dictionary?

Perfectlap 02-23-2005 05:23 PM

no its probably more 'phonic' if you spell it incorectly.

The big mistake is that the the Caiman (and the crocodillo) is known as the short snout gator.

The Aligator has the long snout.

Being bred of a roadster (long nose short back) it would have been more approapiate to call it the Porsche Gator

PeterJoyce 02-23-2005 05:54 PM

Under energy, Porsche says, "kinetic energy waiting to be released", when we all know it should be potential energy. haha.

Adam 02-23-2005 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
no its probably more 'phonic' if you spell it incorectly.

The big mistake is that the the Caiman (and the crocodillo) is known as the short snout gator.

The Aligator has the long snout.

Being bred of a roadster (long nose short back) it would have been more approapiate to call it the Porsche Gator

Traditional roadsters have long noses and short rear decks ie: vettes, Z4's. However, this is because the engines are in the front which neccitates the need to move the driver as rearward as possible for decent weight distribution. The Boxster and Cayman don't have long noses and short rear decks because the engine is not in front so the term "gator" wouldn't be appropriate here. Jeannot, the 3.4L in the 996 series has 296hp so Porsche only "detuned" the cayman by 1hp.

Pilot2519j 02-23-2005 06:51 PM

New name 987LS
 
I think that no matter what Porsche is doing with the coupe the engine will trickle down to the Boxster. It would make for a more efficient and streamlined production line especially for a small car manufacturer like Porsche.
The name is lame. That name is enough defer buying the car. Make it the 987LS(long snout). I am still keeping my Boxster 986SN short snout. :)


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