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Old 07-13-2009, 06:37 AM   #1
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Don't know. What is your specialty???? Engines design, etc.

Just asking, don't get testy on me.

I really don’t think I get “testy” with anyone………. That said, after I got my BS degree, I worked for Ford in their R&D operations for several years, developing & testing engine components. Later, I spent several years with one of the major oil companies developing and testing new lubricants. I then went back to school for my MBA and joined an automotive supplier, where I eventually rose (sank) to VP of Sales and Marketing. Eventually, I became tired of the corporate life and went out on my own, setting up my own shop……………
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I really don’t think I get “testy” with anyone………. That said, after I got my BS degree, I worked for Ford in their R&D operations for several years, developing & testing engine components. Later, I spent several years with one of the major oil companies developing and testing new lubricants. I then went back to school for my MBA and joined an automotive supplier, where I eventually rose (sank) to VP of Sales and Marketing. Eventually, I became tired of the corporate life and went out on my own, setting up my own shop……………

OK, you went over to the dark side, getting that MBA.

Now, I have no respect for you, or for me, as I have one too!
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OK, you went over to the dark side, getting that MBA.

Now, I have no respect for you, or for me, as I have one too!

Yeah, but you eat better on the "dark side".....................
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There is another possible explanation that has been overlooked as to why Porsche chose a 180 T-stat for their cars ... creature comfort.

Germany and most of Europe has long cold winters and a car with a 180 T-stat has a cabin heater that ROCKS. That extra 20F makes a big difference in keeping the cabin toasty on a cold winter evening. I believe many German cars; Porsche, VW, Audi, BMW, MBZ choose a higher Tstat for this reason. One of the many compromises a car company must make when designing cars for the masses. Since a GT3 is primarily designed for motorsport and not winter driving I suspect the 160F T-stat made more sense here.

When choosing a T-stat for your car consider your typical usage. If you do a lot of winter driving the 180 might be the right one for you. If your interest is Summer driving and motorsport than a 160 would be a good choice.

I have no MBA, SAE, just a measly BA in business. I have no documentation or internal memos to support this theory. Just a basic understanding of cooling systems, an observation that most German cars have a higher T-stat, and that their cabin heaters are "the best" when it is cold outside.
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There is another possible explanation that has been overlooked as to why Porsche chose a 180 T-stat for their cars ... creature comfort.

Germany and most of Europe has long cold winters and a car with a 180 T-stat has a cabin heater that ROCKS. That extra 20F makes a big difference in keeping the cabin toasty on a cold winter evening. I believe many German cars; Porsche, VW, Audi, BMW, MBZ choose a higher Tstat for this reason. One of the many compromises a car company must make when designing cars for the masses. Since a GT3 is primarily designed for motorsport and not winter driving I suspect the 160F T-stat made more sense here.

When choosing a T-stat for your car consider your typical usage. If you do a lot of winter driving the 180 might be the right one for you. If your interest is Summer driving and motorsport than a 160 would be a good choice.

I have no MBA, SAE, just a measly BA in business. I have no documentation or internal memos to support this theory. Just a basic understanding of cooling systems, an observation that most German cars have a higher T-stat, and that their cabin heaters are "the best" when it is cold outside.
Well, as someone that lives where 0F in not unusual, I can assure you that a 160 stat delivers plenty of winter heat.........................
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Yes it does. And a 180 T-stat produces 20F more heat on a cold day. As i said, just an observation not absolute Porsche design philosophy.
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Yes it does. And a 180 T-stat produces 20F more heat on a cold day. As i said, just an observation not absolute Porsche design philosophy.
Somehow, I don't see what that would be an issue in Cucamonga CA
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Yeah, but you eat better on the "dark side".....................
Likely. On the other hand, I am about to get my doctorate, so I am back to living like a pauper.

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If I put in a lower thermostat, am I not just making my cooling fans run more? If so, doesn't the engine have to work just a bit harder to run the cooling fans.

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If I put in a lower thermostat, am I not just making my cooling fans run more? If so, doesn't the engine have to work just a bit harder to run the cooling fans.

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