11-03-2008, 04:07 PM
|
#1
|
Guest
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ekam[B
]I love the unique sound of the flat 6 and 4-cyl engine is definitely a turn-off for me.[/B]
At least that article mentioned the next Boxster will be lighter since it's been gaining weight year by year.
|
Not to mention the move to 4cyl will make the car even more of a pariah to those who think the 911 should stand alone. The 944 Boxster, glad I have mine already...
|
|
|
11-03-2008, 04:20 PM
|
#2
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Texarkana, Texas
Posts: 959
|
You should note that they said the 4 cyl will be turbocharged and just over 200 bhp. The Subaru WRX I used to have was like 227 hp stock, turbo 2.0L 4 cyl. With an intake, exhaust, boost controller, and ECU chip I was pushing over 300 hp and 0 to 60 in 4.6 seconds - all for about $2,500 in mods.
I wouldn't dismiss a 4 cyl turbo Boxster just yet. It may actually have a LOT of potential. Subaru and Mitsubishi are both selling stock cars now that are pushing 300 hp from 4 cyl turbo engines. Heck, even GM and Chrysler can do a lot with a turbo 4 (Solstice GXP, Neon SRT4, etc.)! With the focus on fuel economy I doubt that Porsche will do the same, BUT the potential may be there to really crank the boost up, throw fuel economy out the window, and get these things to move!
We'll have to wait and see....
Kirk
__________________
2000 Boxster S - Gemballa body kit, GT3 front bumper, JRZ coilovers, lower stress bars
2003 911 Carrera 4S - TechArt body kit, TechArt coilovers, HRE wheels
1986 911 Carrera Targa - 3.2L, Euro pistons, 964 cams, steel slant nose widebody
1975 911S Targa - undergoing a full restoration and engine rebuild
Also In The Garage - '66 912, '69 912, '72 914 Chalon wide body, '73 914
|
|
|
11-03-2008, 04:26 PM
|
#3
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,656
|
Kirk:
If you want more horsepower, you're not going to own a Boxster to begin with.
Not to mention tuning Japanese vs European cars are totally different. You will definitely not see the same hp gain on a european turbo (say 1.8T off a VW/Audi) than japanese turbo (MKIV Supra or Mitsu EVO).
Let's see any european cars, including VW, Audi, BMW or Benz do this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFB1S4T6B98
Last edited by ekam; 11-03-2008 at 04:28 PM.
|
|
|
11-03-2008, 05:05 PM
|
#4
|
Guest
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirk
You should note that they said the 4 cyl will be turbocharged and just over 200 bhp. The Subaru WRX I used to have was like 227 hp stock, turbo 2.0L 4 cyl. With an intake, exhaust, boost controller, and ECU chip I was pushing over 300 hp and 0 to 60 in 4.6 seconds - all for about $2,500 in mods.
I wouldn't dismiss a 4 cyl turbo Boxster just yet. It may actually have a LOT of potential. Subaru and Mitsubishi are both selling stock cars now that are pushing 300 hp from 4 cyl turbo engines. Heck, even GM and Chrysler can do a lot with a turbo 4 (Solstice GXP, Neon SRT4, etc.)! With the focus on fuel economy I doubt that Porsche will do the same, BUT the potential may be there to really crank the boost up, throw fuel economy out the window, and get these things to move!
We'll have to wait and see....
Kirk
|
I'm sure it will be fast, maybe they will slap some of that variable vein turbo technology on the beast. I just think 4cyl sports cars are available in many cheaper varieties, they may find the other manufacturers canabalizing their market unless they build the car as a proper Porsche.
|
|
|
11-03-2008, 06:53 PM
|
#5
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Vero Beach
Posts: 142
|
either way, the thought of a turbo will definitely turn more people on to "boost". The current boxster engines, whether a 2.5/2.7/3.3 don't carry boost that well, the 4 cyl will definitely have the option to make more power in the long run
|
|
|
11-03-2008, 08:22 PM
|
#6
|
There Is No Substitute.
Join Date: May 2007
Location: West Coast
Posts: 3,253
|
I think a 4 cylinder Boxster will be fine as long as it remains quick. If it can do a decent 0-60 time and get 25+ mpg I think it will appeal to even more people. This move might also have something to do with new restrictions on fuel consumption, that's hitting sports car manufactures hard.
__________________
1999 Ocean Blue Metallic Boxster - blueboxster.com
|
|
|
11-04-2008, 07:01 PM
|
#7
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 178
|
Hey, some of us already have a 4-cyl mid-engined Porsche!
Don't forget, the E30 M3, with it's highly-strung 4-cyl, is viewed by most as the most visceral version of the M3, and it's an excellent track car. A 4-cyl is a different experience than a more powerful 6- or 8-cyl, and it can be a lot of fun on the street. Nothing like having a car that weighs closer to 2,000 lbs as compared 3,000+ lbs when it comes to transitions and general maneuverability.
BTW, another 4-cyl advantage: I drove from Phoenix today to our house in Flagstaff and back. It's about 175 miles each way, with a 6,000 ft elevation gain going to Flagstaff. I drove my new Honda Fit Sport, cruise set between 75 and 80 mph on I-17. On the steepest grades it dropped all the way to 3rd (at 70 mph), just under 6,000 rpm, but Honda builds a pretty smooth motor, so it wasn't unpleasant. Round trip mileage (as measured by actual fuel consumption and mileage, not by the wacky "avg. mpg" guage) was 35.3 mpg. Not bad!
__________________
Paul B. Anders / Phoenix, AZ
1970 Porsche 914 / 2003 Porsche Boxster / 2009 Honda Fit Sport Auto
|
|
|
11-04-2008, 07:48 PM
|
#8
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 524
|
I have a 4 cyl turbo Porsche now. Stock it was rated @ 247hp. I have a chip, boost controller and dual port wastegate and already pushing 275 whp. This is just from a simple $600 expense. I have friends who are pushing 350 to over 400 whp in their modified 951's. A 4cyl turbo Boxster that will be lighter than current base boxster will be enticing. It won't be long before this turbo will have more power than the new Boxster S with just simple mods. As others mentioned the engine note will definitely change.
__________________
2008 Boxster S PDE2
02 Boxster S Blk on Blk(Stock for the Wife)
88 turbo S (My Toy) slightly modified
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:14 PM.
| |