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		|  11-02-2008, 03:35 PM | #41 |  
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				 It appears there are two switches on the clutch pedal.   I'm assuming one is for Cruise Control, one is for starter.     Of course, i have no idea which is which.    I'm hoping Paul or Blue can answer this question.  
 
 
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Yes now that I have the wiring diagram in front of me, there are 2 switches, I should have not trusted my failing memory!
 
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		|  11-02-2008, 03:43 PM | #42 |  
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				 Are you saying when it's cold out, the drive wheels are somehow mated to the flywheel while the car is in neutral?  Not the case.
 Maybe I'm still not understanding the question.
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Even when in neutral the mainshaft of the tranny will cause a lot of drag due to the tranny fluid being molasses.  Pushing in the clutch makes a noticeable difference in cranking speeds in the cold.
		 
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		|  11-02-2008, 04:11 PM | #43 |  
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				 Even when in neutral the mainshaft of the tranny will cause a lot of drag due to the tranny fluid being molasses.  Pushing in the clutch makes a noticeable difference in cranking speeds in the cold. |  
Nope, never noticed any difference in the cold.
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		|  11-08-2008, 07:18 PM | #44 |  
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			Any update?
		 
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		|  11-11-2008, 07:41 AM | #45 |  
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			I'm hooked! I need to know what happened?!?!?!!
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		|  11-23-2008, 06:42 AM | #46 |  
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			Any update?
		 
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		|  11-23-2008, 06:49 AM | #47 |  
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				 Nope, never noticed any difference in the cold. |  
Next time you are cranking your car without the clutch being depressed in temps lower than -20 F, kick in the clutch and see what happens.
		 
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		|  11-29-2008, 05:22 PM | #48 |  
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				 Next time you are cranking your car without the clutch being depressed in temps lower than -20 F, kick in the clutch and see what happens. |  
I don't know that I'll ever get the chance.  I don't think i even had to contend with that temperature while I was living in Wisconsin myself.
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		|  11-29-2008, 05:55 PM | #49 |  
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 2001 Boxster original owner.  I installed used motor at 89k.
 1987 924S.      2002 996TT.        PST-2
 Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974.  Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
 
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		|  11-29-2008, 07:16 PM | #51 |  
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			I wonder if Sam ever took his car in for service, maybe he sold it, maybe he hasn't got around to taking it in yet....
		 
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		|  12-15-2008, 05:42 AM | #52 |  
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				 Next time you are cranking your car without the clutch being depressed in temps lower than -20 F, kick in the clutch and see what happens. |  
-11F this morning.  I turned it over both with and without the clutch depressed to see the difference.  It does turn over a little easier with the clutch depressed, but it turns either way.
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		|  01-26-2009, 06:53 PM | #53 |  
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			Please tell us the rest of the story, we need closure!
		 
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		|  01-26-2009, 08:48 PM | #54 |  
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			I wish I coulda chimed in sooner, it's Definatly a immobilizer issue, once ur battery went dead, ur alarm had some issue with recognizing the rf ID pill inside ur key fob. That Sorta thing happens time to time with porsches that are garage queens or weeknend cars cause the batter will die out sometimes at quick as 3-10 days depending batter condition & draw the batter has on it from any anti-theft that require power to operate, sometimes immobilized will fail in those situations as well and have gotten several cars in for the same reason but we always have to refer them to the dealerhip cause only they can correct Porsche Anti-theft equipment.  
But u did good on ruling out any possible reasons it could have been which is what most of us would have done as well... Until our patience has absolutly been drained.     
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