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[Sammy]

I thought your children were older? And whose car is that?

Cute... How much does the labor cost?

Hey Sammy, I have been shopping for a 1996 or 1997 Carrera 993 Turbo since February. This is one of the cars I like, and received the photo from the owner today. Thought it was cute!

Yes, my daughters are 10 and 7.5!

[Adam]

993's are definately the best air-cooled 911 appearance wise and performance as well. I want one some day to add to the stable.

[Blkboxster]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Hey Sammy, I have been shopping for a 1996 or 1997 Carrera 993 Turbo since February. This is one of the cars I like, and received the photo from the owner today. Thought it was cute!

Yes, my daughters are 10 and 7.5!

thats a very nice carrera You gonna buy it :dance:

Originally Posted by Blkboxster

thats a very nice carrera You gonna buy it :dance:

I will be buying a 993 Turbo. Just don't know which one right now. The buying process requires a lot of due diligence. I have done 2 PPI's and passed on both cars. I am test driving two on Tuesday. I am doing another PPI on Monday. If you make a mistake, it could easily cost you $15-20 large.

The actual hunt is a lot of fun!

[Blkboxster]

[QUOTE=bmussatti]I will be buying a 993 Turbo. Just don't know which one right now. The buying process requires a lot of due diligence. I have done 2 PPI's and passed on both cars. I am test driving two on Tuesday. I am doing another PPI on Monday. If you make a mistake, it could easily cost you $15-20 large.

The actual hunt is a lot of fun![/QUOTE

i agree searching is always fun, if you dont mind me asking how much are they going for? or how much are you willing to spend???

hope you find a great one

Blkboxster, like most Porsches, pricing is all over the board. I lot depends on the things you would expect; condition, mileage, options, mods (some increase some decrease) and history.

I have looked at cars from $60-90. Cars with 12,000 miles and cars with 40,000 miles.

Now is a great time to buy, with the current economy. Sellers are also becoming more realistic. I want a good, solid car. Not a garage queen or museum piece. I plan to drive it, like I do the Boxster.

We'll see what happens. No rush.

Heck, I could buy a 2006-2007 (soon a 2008) Carrera S for about the same money, and get a warranty. This is actually an option for me, but I really want the old body style, air cooled engine and turbo power.

But, the potential costs involved with a +12 year old Porsche is very daunting.

[fragdude]

But, the potential costs involved with a +12 year old Porsche is very daunting.

Agreed, on my brothers 87 just changing the clutch costs upwards of $2200. Plus the maintenance is much more regular, parts are more expensive, and so is the labor.

fragdude, I hear ya brotha!

The clutch on the 993 turbo is engine out service and $3,000 easy. A valve job is also engine out and starts at $12k...plus the "while you are in there" stuff added on.

An oil change at a well respected indy shop in Chicago is +$330. It requires 2 oil filters, removal of an under body engine bay panel, the right rear wheel and part of the wheel well liner and 11-12 quarts of full synthetic oil(they recommend Royal Purple 15W40). And you have to add the oil real-real slowly.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Blkboxster, like most Porsches, pricing is all over the board. I lot depends on the things you would expect; condition, mileage, options, mods (some increase some decrease) and history.

I have looked at cars from $60-90. Cars with 12,000 miles and cars with 40,000 miles.

Now is a great time to buy, with the current economy. Sellers are also becoming more realistic. I want a good, solid car. Not a garage queen or museum piece. I plan to drive it, like I do the Boxster.

We'll see what happens. No rush.

Heck, I could buy a 2006-2007 (soon a 2008) Carrera S for about the same money, and get a warranty. This is actually an option for me, but I really want the old body style, air cooled engine and turbo power.

But, the potential costs involved with a +12 year old Porsche is very daunting.

That's the funny thing about 993's. The nice ones are selling for the same as 996 turbo. MMmmm..280hp or 415hp? Is the 993 worth it????

Adam, a lot of the nice 993 NA's are selling for MORE than a 996 Turbo.

A 993 Turbo sells for much more than a 996 Turbo on average.

I am only looking at 993 Turbos.

[ddb]

I too love the 993 body, air cooled engine note as well as the "old-school" interior. They are gorgeous!

The cost of the cars and the maintenance is crazy! Sounds like you are well informed and on top of it, so I know you will pick a great one.

The dilemma: how are you going to decide which to drive?

Looking forward to seeing the pictures and hearing the stories when you pull the trigger.

ddb

[fragdude]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

fragdude, I hear ya brotha!

The clutch on the 993 turbo is engine out service and $3,000 easy. A valve job is also engine out and starts at $12k...plus the "while you are in there" stuff added on.

An oil change at a well respected indy shop in Chicago is +$330. It requires 2 oil filters, removal of an under body engine bay panel, the right rear wheel and part of the wheel well liner and 11-12 quarts of full synthetic oil(they recommend Royal Purple 15W40). And you have to add the oil real-real slowly.

Bmussatti, I foresee...large bills in your future...and much enjoyment!

[Blkboxster]

Originally Posted by Adam

That's the funny thing about 993's. The nice ones are selling for the same as 996 turbo. MMmmm..280hp or 415hp? Is the 993 worth it????

i thought it was 400hp???

[fragdude]

I'm pretty sure the 993 Turbo has 400 hp, there is also an "S" edition that is extremely rare that has a bit more though

[Blkboxster]

Originally Posted by fragdude

I'm pretty sure the 993 Turbo has 400 hp, there is also an "S" edition that is extremely rare that has a bit more though

yep thats what i thought, its a monster

Yes, the 993 Twin Turbo has 400 HP @ 5,750 rpm and 400 ft lb @ 4,500 rpm. The curb weight is 3,307 pounds.

The 993 Twin Turbo S has 424 HP. They only brought about 181 units to the USA.

Both cars are AWD- most people don't realize this.

Porsche brough about 1,200 993 Turbos into the USA in 1996 and about another 600 in 1997. There are right now only about 80-90 active cars for sale in the USA. The sad part is that the strength of the Euro has many of these cars going to over-seas buyers. So, there are becoming less and less cars available in the USA.

[Blkboxster]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Yes, the 993 Twin Turbo has 400 HP @ 5,750 rpm and 400 ft lb @ 4,500 rpm. The curb weight is 3,307 pounds.

The 993 Twin Turbo S has 424 HP. They only brought about 181 units to the USA.

Both cars are AWD- most people don't realize this.

Porsche brough about 1,200 993 Turbos into the USA in 1996 and about another 600 in 1997. There are right now only about 80-90 active cars for sale in the USA. The sad part is that the strength of the Euro has many of these cars going to over-seas buyers. So, there are becoming less and less cars available in the USA.

only a jump of 24hp, thats nothing, you have driven the 993 turbo right ? if so how was it

[fragdude]

I know the S also had some cosmetic changes like holes in the 3/4 panels for the intercoolers instead of them being ontop of the engine like in the regular car. But you know Porsche, they sometimes are quite modest about their performance figures and 24 extra hp from porsche can mean quite a difference if its in the right places...
That said, 993 turbo is one of my dream cars. I saw one last new years in Aspen, absolutely stunning.