Most snow ever since 1966

[Jump]

And here I've always thought that snow and the earth's climate were two different things. Amazing what you can learn here.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Jump

And here I've always thought that snow and the earth's climate were two different things. Amazing what you can learn here.

Would you agree that cold temperatures and snow are PART of the Earth's climate? It seems that heat and other natural manifestations of climate are used as evidence of GW. Why could not cold temps suggest that the warming is well, not acually happening?

Just a radical thought, never get published on CNBC or CNN.

[Brucelee]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14319334.200-not-warming-but-cooling-whatever-happened-to-globalwarming-it-seems-that-the-worlds-most-populous-areas-are-getting-coolerthe-culprit-this-time-is-the-aerosol-effect--reports-fred-pearce.html



Just when you think you got it all covered!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dr. Kill]

[QUOTE=Brucelee]http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14319334.200-not-warming-but-cooling-whatever-happened-to-globalwarming-it-seems-that-the-worlds-most-populous-areas-are-getting-coolerthe-culprit-this-time-is-the-aerosol-effect--reports-fred-pearce.html
[QUOTE]

I love it:

"Climatologists who spent the past decade warning about global warming are fast reaching the conclusion that cooling poses just as big a threat. But it will not simply cancel out warming. Instead, they see the atmosphere simultaneously being pulled in two different directions by powerful changes to its basic physics and chemistry. It is likely to show increasing signs of stress and unpredictability as a result. "

[Jump]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14319334.200-not-warming-but-cooling-whatever-happened-to-globalwarming-it-seems-that-the-worlds-most-populous-areas-are-getting-coolerthe-culprit-this-time-is-the-aerosol-effect--reports-fred-pearce.html


Just when you think you got it all covered!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting to see what they were looking at in 1994 isn't it? Probably before most of us even heard of the concept of Global Warming.

[Jump]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Would you agree that cold temperatures and snow are PART of the Earth's climate? It seems that heat and other natural manifestations of climate are used as evidence of GW. Why could not cold temps suggest that the warming is well, not acually happening?

Just a radical thought, never get published on CNBC or CNN.

What I will acknowledge is:

a) the MORE cold it is, the LESS likely it is to snow
b) if there is any truth to global warming it is going to present itself in long term trends, not yearly fluctuations. Anyone who believes that an abnormally warm year or an abnormally cold year proves or disproves the concept of global warming shouldn't be involved in the conversation.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Jump

What I will acknowledge is:

a) the MORE cold it is, the LESS likely it is to snow
b) if there is any truth to global warming it is going to present itself in long term trends, not yearly fluctuations. Anyone who believes that an abnormally warm year or an abnormally cold year proves or disproves the concept of global warming shouldn't be involved in the conversation.

Of course no one is implying that this winter PROVES anything.

However, that standard should apply BOTH ways.

Every climate related event that is negative is chalked up to GW. A bad storm the CA wildfires, hurricanes etc. The hysterics are not coming from the GW doubters. I would hope you would agree with that point.

What is good for the goose .........

[Jump]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Of course no one is implying that this winter PROVES anything.

However, that standard should apply BOTH ways.

Every climate related event that is negative is chalked up to GW. A bad storm the CA wildfires, hurricanes etc. The hysterics are not coming from the GW doubters. I would hope you would agree with that point.

What is good for the goose .........

I think that there are hysterics from the GW doubters as well (surprisingly hateful at times) but I'd agree that there are plenty on the other side who aren't doing anybody any good with blaming every little thing on GW. That needs to stop. Unfortunately, the media needs to sensationalize everything for ratings. One of the downsides of a free press.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Jump

I think that there are hysterics from the GW doubters as well (surprisingly hateful at times) but I'd agree that there are plenty on the other side who aren't doing anybody any good with blaming every little thing on GW. That needs to stop. Unfortunately, the media needs to sensationalize everything for ratings. One of the downsides of a free press.

Well, if you are going to start bashing the media, hey, OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I KNEW we could agree on something.

[Frodo]

Quote:

"Took this pic today, it has since snowed more...."

Posted by ohioboxster.

Yeah, you can damn sure say that again. First came the ice...








Then the snow...





This year I have to say I am as ready for spring as I have EVER been in my life. One more shot: What I'm drivin' now, and what I hope to be drivin' as soon as possible...