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Old 02-15-2008, 06:15 AM   #1
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End of the 2 dr sports car....

I know we have all been hearing about this car for some time. Just saw this picture and video.
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Old 02-15-2008, 07:19 AM   #2
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I don't think 2-door sports cars are going anywhere soon. This is just Porsche's attempt to break into the MB and BMW sedan market.

Personally, I have always been upset me that my dad was able to have multiple 2-door sports cars in the '60's-'70's, because today there are only four or five sporty 2-door cars in production (for under $30k). They may not be popular anymore, but they are never going disappear.
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Yuck. Looks vaguely Japanese, like a Lexus.

They'll probably sell like crazy.
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Its just part of the evolution of Porsche into a major player in the auto market. Twenty years ago, who would have thought that they would make an SUV.
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First impression: Looks like a Dodge Magnum from certain angles, especially in Red
Second impression: Stretch 911 with the shape of the rear and the extra doors
Third impression: 928 (overall profile) crossed with a Z4 (lines) and a Cayenne (front end)
Final impression: I don't like the Cayenne either, meaning this will sell like hotcakes too...
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:54 AM   #6
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I'm not too fond of it either, but if it (like the Cayenne) brings in the money so that Porsche can continue R&D on better mid and rear engine sports cars then I will live with this necessary evil.
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:20 AM   #7
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I'm not a Fan.

But, recently, Porsche isn't making money on cars anyway. They're making their money on Stocks, Hedge Funds and Currency exchange.

Boxster sales continue to decline for the 6th year in a row. 911 sales are up, but the total units sold are still not too impressive, except for a niche player (which Porsche essentially is).

The bulk of the growth in Car Sales comes from the Cayenne. The Panamera will likely go gangbusters out of the box, but will that be sustainable 2 or 3 yrs. after release? No one can say.

I'm not too worried about the future of the 2-door ragtop, though small, it's a solid market. What I do see disappearing is the 2-door coupe' as it lacks the practicality many of today's buyers demand.

But, hey, if I was that good at predicting the future, I'd buy a chair on the exchange, and build the largest private garage and collection on earth!
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Contrary to most opinions here I think this is a good thing. Porsche need to produce a sports sedan that has Porsche performance but more practicality than the current line-up. There are a number of buyers in the market looking at the RS4, M3, and C63 who would welcome a Porsche alternative. They just need to make sure it competes or exceeds the list above in performance.

Regarding the styling, I'm not a big fan. The front looks fine the rear looks very odd.

Where this could go very wrong is if they don't build the performance in and it's just a sedan. That would blow.
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Agree that from a business standpoint it may be a good thing. I just wonder whether it's possible to release a car or a series of cars so "ugly" or, more properly, out of line with the traditional styling that the marque begins to tarnish a bit.

I look at the latest 911, Boxster, or Cayman and see a car that looks like a Porsche. The Cayenne doesn't do it for me, but at least you can say, "they had to market an SUV - and how could that look anything like their cars." I find this new vehicle a little more disturbing because it is back into the car class and just doesn't have any of the beauty or elegance that signifies the brand. At least to my eye... understand that others may see it differently.

I guess this is another along the lines of the 924/944/928/968 vehicles... "oddballs" in the sense that they deviated rather sharply from the tradition of the 911 and roadsters.
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I dont like it.
But I did not like the Cayenne either at first, in the future I want to like this sedan, but as of now it does not do it for me.
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I don't think 2-door sports cars are going anywhere soon.
I think you misunderstood my attempt to be sarcastic. I know the 2dr sports car isn't going anywhere, but the birth of the 4dr sports car is just insulting to all us 2dr sports car lovers. That's what I was saying. Leave the 4-door sedans out of exotic cars. We already have SUVs. What's next, Porsche pickup trucks?
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Eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww. I watched the vid and I think I threw up in my mouth a little. The roofline is way off for the rest of the car. The back end looks like it was designed to handle a "69 RB 571 Hemi. I understand that Porsce can't live in the sposts car world alone, but come on guys, lets make it a little better looking. I waited till I was in my late 30's to start my Porsche collection, and I don't see me waiting for decades to add one of these. I will save any extra garage space I have for more traditional Porsches.
I wonder if Porsche is going after the merket that the new Aston Marton seems to be building..............................now there is a car I want.
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I wish I had a dollar for every Cayenne I see around town, especially dropping kids off at our high school. The Panamera will sell very well to these demographics. I already know a physician friend who has two Cayennes, a 993 and a GT3; guess I'll also be driving in his Panamera when he gets it.
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I think you misunderstood my attempt to be sarcastic. I know the 2dr sports car isn't going anywhere, but the birth of the 4dr sports car is just insulting to all us 2dr sports car lovers. That's what I was saying. Leave the 4-door sedans out of exotic cars. We already have SUVs. What's next, Porsche pickup trucks?

I did misunderstand you. But they already have Porsche pickup trucks.

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Haha Rick...you beat me to it!
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Uuuggghhh!!!!
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or this - http://jalopnik.com/355041/porsche-powered-vw-transporter
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