Pagid E1 blacks

[dcporsche99]

Hi,
My brother-in-law used the Pagid Black as well on his 911 and had the same issue as Boxtaboy. Unfortunately, he ended up changing them back to new OEM pads because nothing he and his Porsche mechanic tried worked.

Personally, I use Mintex (red box) and they've been very effective. But, I guess it also depends on one's driving style. Are you planning on tracking your car??

Originally Posted by dcporsche99

Hi,
My brother-in-law used the Pagid Black as well on his 911 and had the same issue as Boxtaboy. Unfortunately, he ended up changing them back to new OEM pads because nothing he and his Porsche mechanic tried worked.

Personally, I use Mintex (red box) and they've been very effective. But, I guess it also depends on one's driving style. Are you planning on tracking your car??

No, supposedly the E1 blacks are street pads and easy on the rotors. If your Bro in law had the racing type, they are known to squeel but be effective fro the track.

[dcporsche99]

From what he told me back then, they were the street version. I think he just had the misfortune of taking the advice from someone who was selling the product rather than doing his own research. But that's why this forum is extremely helpful!

Anyway, let us know how it turns out.

Originally Posted by dcporsche99

From what he told me back then, they were the street version. I think he just had the misfortune of taking the advice from someone who was selling the product rather than doing his own research. But that's why this forum is extremely helpful!

Anyway, let us know how it turns out.

Funny you should say that, I already made sure I can swap the pads for whatever else I want, that's why I'm asking in the first place. The OEM pads squeel a bit till you really press hard then they are ok for the rest of the trip. I don't think any pad will negate all noise, I'm just not looking to make it worse.

[dcporsche99]

Well, nice job on taking care of that issue. Sounds like good 'ol customer service! What shop is that?

Originally Posted by dcporsche99

Well, nice job on taking care of that issue. Sounds like good 'ol customer service! What shop is that?

I't's an ebay seller out of Toronto, they sell Zimmermans too. Tonight the motive arrived and I'm a bit confused by one of the instructions. It says if the Motive still has fluid in it when you are done bleeding you tip it away from the supply tube, open the bleeder nearest the master and let air flow back into the fluid reservoir...What? Wouldn't that require re bleeding of that caliper? It's also comical that the directions are on the unit only and not in print, gee felllas you think the bottle will remain scrape & grease free it's whole life? I guess by then you either know how it works or have thrown it out anyhow. I'm starting to think I'm biting off a big chunk of headache, especially since I've yet to locate the clutch bleed from the posted pic. The pan splits underneath the car, I'm thinking it's under the front piece.

They left me a message tonight, the pagids are 421 blacks, the reviews are good, if anyone is running these please jump in.

[Pat]

A couple of you are confusing the two different compounds of Pagid Blacks. There is a street compound and a race compound. If you use the wrong one for the wrong application, you'd know right away.
The Blacks the shop recommended are great street pads. They are similar to OEM. The best high-performance street pad I've used are the Pagid Blues, which are just a step more aggressive than the street-oriented Blacks.

[RandallNeighbour]

Originally Posted by xusmnimij

I't's an ebay seller out of Toronto, they sell Zimmermans too.

gforcebrakes.com?

If so, that's who I just bought my Pagid blacks pads and zimmerman cross-drilled cadmium plated rotors from a couple of weeks ago.

[jderiansf]

Originally Posted by xusmnimij

I't's an ebay seller out of Toronto, they sell Zimmermans too. Tonight the motive arrived and I'm a bit confused by one of the instructions. It says if the Motive still has fluid in it when you are done bleeding you tip it away from the supply tube, open the bleeder nearest the master and let air flow back into the fluid reservoir...What? Wouldn't that require re bleeding of that caliper? It's also comical that the directions are on the unit only and not in print, gee felllas you think the bottle will remain scrape & grease free it's whole life? I guess by then you either know how it works or have thrown it out anyhow. I'm starting to think I'm biting off a big chunk of headache, especially since I've yet to locate the clutch bleed from the posted pic. The pan splits underneath the car, I'm thinking it's under the front piece.

They left me a message tonight, the pagids are 421 blacks, the reviews are good, if anyone is running these please jump in.

As for the Motive: you tilt and allow air into the supply tube only until the air reaches the reservoir. This way, when you dis-assemble it you don't have a reservoir filled over the brim.

Make sense?

Jason